still no answer. i dont care what you pay for or who you sponser. i asked for help and got an answer..not help if someone asks for help no matter how much it has cost me if i reply to that help, it will be help as much as i can give. i asked you politly, when i wrote in big letters it was meant in the way that they shout it at cricket. Hows That, its not in capitals. sorry if you didnt see that it werent capitals but it was meant as in, hope this is spot on. i asked once and then after not receiving any answers i asked again if you could tell me the button that wont work so i can see if it was a button i would be bothered with also i asked if you could help point me in the right direction to get the loom. none where offered or given. As for it was directed at phil then tell phil on phils thread, did your answer help, partly, i did ask for more help but it seemed like you wanted to tell phil off a bit more. im not in phils corner, i just want a bit more advice and help other than button loom wiring. i would of listen to everything you had to say and took it with full respect but there was no follow up tp my questions, now looking back it might be because you thought that my hows that was in capitals and i was being rude. if it was you could of just said and i would of happily expalined like this, sorry mate it was large letter not capital letters.