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Disaster - Oil Pressure Warning light in Middle Of Motorway - Help

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    Managed to get home after nearly an hour limping along at 10mph I checked the oil after the car had cooled down and there seemed sufficient Oil in butput some more in. left overnight and checked the oil again no problems,but again once above 2k revs the Oil sensor kicked in.

    So what are my options? apart from the obvious sensor failure, what else could be at fault. The worst bit was when limping along there was a horrible sound from the rear as though something was greating. Oh there are NO oil leaks the undercarriage is completely dry.

    What kind of cost am I potentialy looking at to sort this,as I need the car for work, no other way to get there unless I want to spend 2-3 hrs on various buses.
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    Petrol or diesel??

    If diesel i would (sit down and prepare for some unpleasant reading) have a read of oil pump/balance shaft failure thread.
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    if petrol still sit down
    you wont be low on oil with the low oil presure pick up is prob blocked
    and with the noise you are getting the engine may be ****ed
    it may be sensor but that wouldnt cause the noise
    but why did you drive it with the big red low oil presurs light comeing on ? ? ? ? ?
    you may get away with sump off pick up changed maybe the oil pump
    worst case engine rebuild
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    thank for the post. In answer to your question, I dont have AA reovery and I was 1o ms from home and once off the motorway I would have been in an area were if I left the car it wouldnt have been there when I went back- well yes it would but most of it would be missing. There were already peeps eyeing it up when I stopped to wait for my wife to come and follow us home just in case. It is always easier to do things in hindsight but as you have stated it may end up having a replacment engine either way it is b**d The only thing is how the f do I get it to a garage, I would ideally like to take it to the Audi at stockport as the car has a full SH and last time I went I found their prices ok. BUT there is a VAG garage nearby, willl I need ot sort out some kind of tow?
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    So, have we ascertained if its a petrol or a diesel??
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    dont take it to audi they will rape u 3 times over
    take plenty of lube
    as above petrol pr diesel ?
    finding an engine is hard work aswell a rebuild is goin cost 1000++
    last time i had 1 go i was unlucky and bottom end went cost me 700 but i know the lads very well and all parts trade
    last pickup pipe i had to do was 150 inc oils etc but again trade parts and mates rates
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    You've answered your own question. You need to pay someone to transport your car to wherever you decide to have it repaired.
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    Forgive me stating the obvious, but it's easier to do things with foresight, such as taking out breakdown cover.
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    You're where I was about 3/4 weeks ago.
    On motorway oil pressure warning, onto hard shoulder then towed to garage.
    Take a seat and pour yourself a large glass of your favourite tipple.
    My oil pump failed, the turbo failed spewed it's guts and choked the DPF, the egr valve is away and for good measure there is an issue with the bottom end ( read shagged).
    Ballpark figures here, recon engine £1450, turbo £880, DPF £1200, EGR £??? Associated work £???.
    I have just taken my engine out and I will be going the recon route, I have a new turbo and the DPF has been cleaned.
    I will be doing away with the EGR and gutting the DPF for good measure.
    Your car might not be as bad as mine but you need to get it to a garage and get it diagnosed. Or get it to a dodgy neighbourhood and hope something happens to it !!!

    Good Luck - you'll need all you can get.
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    Thanks for the replies, I have had the car towed to Volkmaster who will call me to tell me the damage. One thing I need to ask HOW and CAN I get Audi to cough up some "goodwill" on this issue, should it arise that the engine and or parts are s**d this car was only in Audi Stockport a few weeks ago for the injectors and they did a I think its something like quick manit on it and nothing came back the Car has been serviced by Audi since it was purchased.

    What measures process do I need to follow to squeeze some dosh out of them OR at least try.
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    I'd have thought the obvious starting point is is to speak to Stockport Audi.
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    Thanks for the post - I mean no disrespectI f this is the router to go downwhy would I speak to Stkport Audi? probably I am stating the obvious but they didnt cause the fault. If anything would it not be best to speak to Audi UK ? Stkprt is merley a franchise surely they wouldnt have the auth to offer any kind of goodwill gesture unless they had confirmation from Audi HQ?

    As I said I dont mean any discrepect by the reply just a bit confused as to why Stkprt Audi would be the "obvious choice"?
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    Because they will (or at least should) liaise with Audi UK, perhaps even make representations to Audi on your behalf. At the very least, they should be able to give you information about the parameters Audi UK uses when deciding whether to make a goodwill payment or not.
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    A lot will depend on the age, mileage and dealer service history but 2 things would of geatly improved your chances of a goodwill contribution, firstly should of used Stockport or any other franchised dealer workshop and secondly you shouldn't have ignored the warning and driven on but stopped immediately and have the car recovered thereby minimising damage.
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    Always go to a franchised dealer first. If you're car doesn't have a full dealer service history then your chances of goodwill are zero as Audi do not view you as loyal to the brand.
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    Above points taken, however I am not paying for someone to tow my car the best part of 20 miles to be (bent over) by Audi and their prices. I dont think the £1650 I have been told it will cost me is that bad, considering some of the posts and costs banded about in the sticky. Even with Audi so called good will gesture (which I hasten to add is not a given) got this from Mr Audi themselves at there Customer Service HQ I think it will still be way higher than the price above.
    So I have decided to stick with what I have - will be selling this pile of c*p as soon as possible yes it has a full audi service but I certainly wont be telling anyone about the problem it has had. Unless they ask - they can find out the hard way just like me.

    Never ever buy an Audi again will be my moto.
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    Slightly unfair to not tell the proposed new owner. If they find out they will have come back on you, legally. Please be aware of this.
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    Thanks for the post but not when Private sale - its the sold as seen, no comeback, after all you will see even so called "dealers" not tell you about faults or repairs. And secondly the repairs will have been done so its not as if they are likely to get a massive bill. It would seem all cars now have some faults but for A not to even recognise and expect the average joe to foot the bill because they cant be bothered to change the design apparently the cost of the faulty part is a measly £2.67!


    There are so called fixes and people have said once fixed they are fine but and there is always a but, do you really expect that you can have the same confidence that you had before knowing that your car can just drop like a stone and its got nothing to do with what you have or havent done
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    what part costs £2.67 ?
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    What I am referring to is the comment you made 'Unless they ask - they can find out the hard way just like me'.
    It's unfortunate this happened to you but it's not the nicest of things to say is it really?
    My engine suffered a similar problem to yours at Christmas but I would always tell the new owner about it and I certainly wouldn't want them to 'find out the hard way just like me' in the future.
    I'd advise them on what happened and also how to avoid in the future.
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    telling them could help the sale aswell
    as they know it will have been done
    also you will be provideing them with an invoice
    so if it was to happen again they can go back the the garage you had it done at for a warranty
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    Your posts on this and other threads have revealed a fundamentally ignorant and mean-spirited attitude. You bought a car with no warranty and without checking its history (indeed, without even checking it had a history), did not bother with breakdown cover, and then when it went wrong, you decided it was all the fault of the manufacturer for not designing it to your exacting high standards. You asked here for advice, and then when you received it (and good sound advice at that) you challenged and nit-picked it because it wasn't what you wanted to hear. Then you say that anyone who might buy the car off you can "find out the hard way".

    I think most people on here would take the view that helping others to avoid making the same mistakes as you was the right way to do things.

    I hope you find another car soon, and I hope the lessons you've learned with the Audi enable you to choose more wisely. I also hope, for the otherwise good vibe of this forum, that the car you do buy is something other than an Audi.
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    i find it funny you rather drive with a oil pressure light on than pay and have a tow.... just my thoughts that if you could of been arsed to pull over and atleast get it checked by a mechanic you may of saved yourself the huge bill.......by ignoring this and being to much of a tight arse that may of cost £40 quid or so to get it towed to the service agents could of saved further items being damaged i.e crank running dry..little and big end bearings and turbo for a start running with no oil pressure.... seems all a bit of silly thing to do for the cheap fix it could of been to tow, strip and replace worn parts...
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    Aaaah i got this on my a4 b6 1.8t thought it was normal oil light n drove on, 5 mins later bang oil pump had failed and i melted my turbo and a lot of valves and stuff, £2,200 repair bill then it blew another turbo as some small bits were overlooked in the repair poor effort.
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    a normal oil light?????? :rtfm:
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    In fairness, it can be mistaken for the oil level warning light.
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    In reply, I had the same problem 5 days ago, driving from work (bout a 5 mile trip), when was leaving and started the engine I thought to myself it sounded a wee bit poor but wasn't sure if was my imagination or not. Regardless, driving on way home, I hear a clunk from beneath the bonnet somewhere and my oil pressure light comes on. This happen pretty much on the final 5 mins of my journal of getting home. I hasten to add that my oil pump was changed from chain to gear about 18 months ago as it died on me. Got home and my engine seized on me. Got an RAC guy out who said cos it had seized he ain't touching it and get it towed and checked. The same night I sent an email to Audi UK explaining what had happened and what could be done for it cos I wasn't really prepared to pay near enough a grand plus costs for anything else that had potentially gone wrong. Got a phone call the next day and customer services explained that the oil pump carries a 24 month warranty (even though an audi specialist replaced the pump) and if I want it looked at under the warranty aspect I have to get it towed to a dealer ship for them to diagnose the problem.


    They called said they need permission to remove sump but if not oil pump then I would be liable for costs, I thought why not take the hit. Then they called the day after said it is the pump that failed again and I would get it replaced for free under warranty and also any subsequent damage that was caused by the failure of the part. They asked for invoice copy of the purchase of the pump and the fitting of it from the garage that fitted it and as long that was all in check they would proceed. Still waiting for the documents to be sent over to dealer ship. But they also said til the pump is replaced they aren't going to be able to determine any further damage caused by the failure of the pump.


    I will keep you all updated as to the final outcome.


    Cheers.
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    Oh this sounds juicy. I hope you take Audi to the cleaners for a new engine.
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    don't tell audi you drove for 5 mins with the oil light on ffs!
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    So the million dollar question remains......is it a diesel or petrol engine?? :keule:
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    Have we established what engine code and whether its petrol or diesel yet? I re-read the thread but ant see it it
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    Nope still no hint as to petrol or diesel xD
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    Petrol, 2.0tFSI engine from a DTM.

    They finally got the invoices from the garage that replaced the pump, and they stripped the car, put the new pump in and put the car back together in, started it about two weeks after being towed into them for them to say that there was noises coming still from the bottom of the engine. They said they still need to take it apart again and return to me once they have decided what they need to do next...

    Will keep you updated guys.
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    Get breakdown cover in mums or nans address, that way you dont get stuffed for homestart, or even better an x's address coz you aint ever going to be there now ARE YOU....lol
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    Don't have the engine code....
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    And home start is standard with the cover I got
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    My chain tensioner for the oil pump broke last week. In garage at present. New pump/balance shaft cos damaged cogs etc. no oil pressure light but a bill of £1800. Mine is also a 2.0T dtm. BUL engine code.
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    Hi Chris.Just read your post.I thought the BUL engine was bullet proof regarding the oil pump issues? Got me worried about my car:tapedshut:
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    one way or another its in the bill
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    Aye, true indeed!
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