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DIS and HID Questions. Help Please. :)

Discussion in 'A4/A4 cabriolet/S4 forum(B6 chassis)' started by PhilW, Apr 19, 2012.

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    [Apr 19, 2012]
    I dont have DIS on my car at the moment but have ordered it, currently i dont have any issues with HID's as far as lights/warnings on the dash.

    Do these problems only happen with when DIS with HID's or can it happen to people with HID's and no DIS?

    Hope that makes sense.

    Thanks.

    Phil.
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    Doesn't make any difference whether you have DIS or not in terms of errors.....
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    Thats great news, thanks for that. :)
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    yes it does

    if you dont have full DIS you dont have bulb out warnings so no bother with HID which i think is what the OP is wanting to know

    brake errors are a different story though
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    [Apr 19, 2012]
    I think the original post was asking about dash warnings (such as master brake/ABS) rather than DIS advisory ones (such as washer fluid/bulbs)......
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    [Apr 23, 2012]
    DIS and cruise all fitted. Was much easier to do than on my old B5 passat. Just waiting for a new lower trim to fit.

    Ferrite beads all fitted, made a difference to the radio reception if anyone has this issue.
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    Awesome! I'll definitely be getting some of these ferrite beads, my radio is un-usable with the HIDs on. Thanks!
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    [Apr 23, 2012]
    I got the ones from Maplin, HEM3017 is the code.
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    I just need to remember to measure the size of the ballast cables!
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    [Apr 23, 2012]
    I found the 10mm ID ones perfect for my hids.

    My ballasts look like this and this is the wire I put them on.

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    I have some like that and have no issues with radio at all
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    Has anybody had a retro-fitted HID kit MOT tested since September 2011?

    I know previously we were in a grey area where on one side, the DfT very specifically said it was illegal to retro-fit or have somebody else retro-fit the headlamps without 1) washers/wipers and 2) self-levelling headlights / suspension.

    But on the other side of the debate, no MOT centre had ever failed a car for having HID's in a projector style lense (like the A4 B6), provided the beam pattern was safe and legal...

    However, the self-levelling / headlight cleaning kit is now very specifically mentioned in the MOT test guidleines:

    from http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/CONT071791.pdf


    Might be worth tagging some of this info to the retro-fit sticky, even if jsut as an advisory: http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/a4-a4-cabriolet-s4-forum-b6-chassis/102215-hid-kit-diy-guide-b6.html
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    The actual wording is "if fitted" so it makes it another grey area

    It doesn't state in the mot hand book that they must be fitted
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    [Apr 27, 2012]
    Bingo.

    http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/MOT%20Inspection%20Manual.pdf


    1) aftermarket HIDs will still pass an MOT if they have a good beam pattern. Levelling and washers are NOT required, but if you do have them, they must work (section 1.7, page 1)


    Read section 1.7 (page 28) and the use of the word "may"...





    Vehicles equipped with High Intensity Discharge (HID) or LED dipped beam headlamps may be fitted with headlamp washers and a suspension or headlamp self levelling system.
    Where such systems are fitted, they must work; however, it is accepted that it may not be possible to readily determine the functioning of self levelling systems. In such cases, the benefit of the doubt must be given.
    Headlamp washers may work in conjunction with the windscreen washers (when the dipped beam headlamps are switched on) or by a separate switch.


    Its not a fail if its not fitted. Like so many other things, spare wheels, rear seats and seatbelts etc...
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    Mine passed its MOT on Tuesday with aftermarket HID's no problem.
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    I don't have full DIS but i get bulb out errors ?? and i have no issues with HIDS fitted either or LEDs fitted front and rear.... i think it's more to do with the year of car... mines an early B6 and thats why i'm error free i think newer ones have a more complex CANBAN and the latest Audis are just plain mad where they can turn off complete circuits should it detect a fault
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    I know of one chap on another forum who's car got through ok last week with them.
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    [Jul 18, 2012]
    Bringing this back for another hod question.

    Im having issues with the driver side shutting down whilst driving, turn them off and on again and it works for a limited amount of time. Tried three different bulbs and two different ballasts, all the same. Also turns on slower than the passenger side as well. Earth maybe or just cheap non can bus hids?
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