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Difference between genuine and replica wheels ?

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by Jasdent, Feb 13, 2007.

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    Alright just wondering why the genuine audi wheels are so much better than replica's ?

    The only thing I could really think of is quality and weight but is there really that big a difference ?

    cheers.
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    Yep, you've hit the nail on the head - weight and quality.

    I've got a set of rep new RS4 wheels on my S3 at the mo. They are a lot heavier than the same size OZ SuperTourismos I've also got. In addition, they needed loads of wheel balance weights stuck on them to get them balanced up ok.
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    I was told that OEM Audi and VW wheels are forged, whereas reps are cast. Thats why OEM are stronger...

    Rich
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    Don't forget price. I've just paid £500 for a freshly refurbed set of OEM RS4's without tyres.
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    I think there are replicas, and then there are replicas! Replica wheels vary in price enormously for the same size/style, butI feel you get what you pay for more with replicas.

    With OEM, you know what you're getting, but then the downside is you pay for it!

    Replicas are a bit hit and miss IMO.

    Having said that, my current set of reps are nicely finished, and weigh the same as the OEM Star 5 Spoke wheels I removed. I also managed to flat spot one of the OEM rims on a pothole, so they're not necessarily any stronger than quality reps. Having said that, I purchased some replicas 18" BMW sport wheels for a previous car, and although they looked the par, they weighed an absolute ton!

    The best thing to do is to try and view any replica wheels in person before parting with your cash.
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    Just out of interest, what is the proper spec for s3 wheels ?

    is it 5x112 pcd et 20 ?

    Also,

    Don't suppose anyone knows what an original RS4 wheel wieghs, do they ?
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    8L is 5x100 and I think et 32
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    I've also heard they come in et35 but not sure. The et32 will sit closer to the arches
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    Yep, the lower the offset or ET number, the more the wheels will 'stick out' from the centreline of the wheel.

    Hence why original A4 RS4 wheels are ET20 - they were designed to fill out the flared wheel arches on that model, so they stick out by an extra centimetre or so.
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    oh i thought he was asking for S3 wheels... yeh the original B5 RS4 wheels will not fit on an S3 at all, wrong stud pattern and too low an offset
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    And weight ? anyone ?
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    I think you guys have got this totally wrong lol, the difference between OE RSTT's and replica ones is mainly price, the genuine items are generally the same weight as the reps. and the main difference is cheapo centrecaps for the reps, and expensive Audi caps for the proper items. S3 needs 5x100 ET35(give or take say 3mm), genuine are ET32.
    Genuine RS4's(I'm talking about the uber RS4 Avant here) are made or Magnesium which are prone to buckling, have a stud pattern of 5x112 and an offset of ET20 to fill the wide arches!
    Of course, there are some bad quality RS4/RSTT reps out there, where the colour fades as soon as you put alloy cleaner on them, just use soap anmd water I say lol.
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    jojo, I don't think you've said anything there that the other posters haven't between them...

    The OP was asking why OEM are better than Replica. I think the general answer is they aren't necessarily!

    You do make a good point about the OEM centre caps though, so the OP should budget another £80 for genuine ones from Audi or half that from ebay etc. The centre caps on my wheels were in all honesty ghastly.

    I think there is a vast spectrum in replica wheel quality, hence my advice to see for yourself, or go on trusted recommendation.

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    In my experience the RSTT replica's are weaker. I bought some good quality reps (correct dish/offsett/no fade with wheel cleaner/matt centre caps with no 'bling') and they looked the part, but within 18 months the front two had buckled. I hadn't dived down any potholes or even kerbed either of them so i'm not even sure what caused it (and I don't bump up kerbs before you ask).

    I found out they were buckled when the guy took them off to change the tyres, he spotted the buckle(s) straight away.
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    My Replicas tat I had a previous car cracked on the inside of the rim in 2 places - not happy about this - simple case of you get what you pay for.
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    this is all worrying as a man who is looking to get an s3, and alot have the RSTT wheels on - more than likely reps. Maybe I should just stick to the good ol fashioned Avus 17"!
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    I think 18" reps are probably more prone to buckling than 17", but you could say 18" wheels in general are more prone to buckling as they've got less tyre protecting them.

    Anyhow, with wheel prices these days and the deals that are about, alloys are almost disposable!!
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    is this the part number for the oem wheels that fit the 8L ?

    8N0 601 025 S

    Anyone know it ?
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