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Definitive Answer: Where to Place Axle Stands B7 S4

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    [Apr 20, 2014]
    Hi guys

    This one's proven quite frustrating...

    I've done several Google searches and nobody seems to offer a definitive solution as to where the axle stands should be placed.

    Description with an image would be ideal!

    Do Audi main dealers have an 'official' axle stand point, or do they never have use of axle stands due to having various ramps?

    WOuld be really useful to lock this down for people, like me, who are searching for a clear and concide answer.

    Any help much appreciated!
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    under the car ?
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    :jester:
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    Under the wishbones/subframe or I have little blocks of mahogany cut that fit in the top of my axle stands with a slot for the sill. Pretty much any where you'd jack it from, Google jacking points.
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    the stands i have have rubber blocks.
    i stick them under the sills where the caps are
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    [Apr 20, 2014]
    This may be of some use

    jack.jpg

    For a 2003 - 2008 Audi S4
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    When you say sills I assume you mean the standard jacking points (shown in the image)?

    I find it really hard to jack it up and have enough space to then put an axle stand next to the jack to lower it back down on to.

    Any images of the points for the wishboes or subframe??
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    I don't have pics of the subframe, but basically as the above comment put the stand where the bolt goes through the subframe onto the body.
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    [Apr 22, 2014]
    Front and rear??

    Any images guys?
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    Come on guys - anyone got any images???
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    Don't think many people would take pictures of where to put an axle stand when doing work tbh mate. If you're not really sure and can't work out how to support your car are you sure it's something you should be doing yourself? Truth is there is no definitive answer, depends what your doing, height car needs to be at, type of head on the jack and stands etc, I usually just work it out as I go.
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    [Apr 23, 2014]
    It seems this is a common question when doing a Google search, but nobody has provided a firm answer.

    Many people say where the suspension arm meets the chassis.

    I thought it would be useful for people to find out an answer from those who have done it, and images say a thousand words.

    I've put cars on axle stands before, just not an S4.
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    [Apr 24, 2014]
    Putting them on the subframe bolts will be fine.
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    [Apr 24, 2014]
    Can anyone here try Google to get some images together? You don't have to take your own as appreciate that's a hassle, but would be really useful for forum users to get a solid answer on this.

    Thanks guys!
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    cant you google yourself ?
    plus the image above is where the stands go
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    Like Bez says, if you think this would be useful information for the forum, why not establish it yourself, and then share it with the forum?
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    Ok then. I'll work it out myself.

    Thanks for that.
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    [Apr 24, 2014]
    its been worked out for you in post 6
    i dont see a problem the question you asked has been answered with a very good image
    including 3 diffrent methods of raising the car
    1 jack
    2 stands
    3 2 post lift
    all useing the oem jacking points.
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    [Apr 24, 2014]
    Yes, but if you read any posts on the net about this subject most mention, quite rightly, that there's not enough room in the sill jacking points for both a jack and an axle stand.

    Additionally, people have mentioned using various sub frame and suspension points - which I feel is the correct answer, but are not the 'official' points shown in the image above.

    So no, it's not quite that straight forward I'm afriad.

    But if I'm really the only person who needs an answer to this (seemingly) quite common question then not to worry I'll work it out.
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    I'll get my car on a lift tomorrow if I can and will get some pics for you. Subframe mounts are best in general due to their inherent strength. They are holding the car up anyway.
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    ricostuart

    You are a gent and a star! Look forward to seeing those - and I'm sure they'll be useful for many people for a few years to come as seems to be a fairly regular question on the various forums!
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    [Apr 26, 2014]
    uploadfromtaptalk1398504113152.jpg

    Shop a little busy so can't get the Audi on the ramp today so will get some stock photo this evening for you.
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    [Apr 26, 2014]
    Here's my car on a post lift ramp, supported from the sills using rubber inserts on the ramp arms to stop the pinch welds being crushed.

    [​IMG]

    You can use a V cut piece of wood on the top of each axle stand to protect your sills OR you could invest in ECS RS4 sill protectors which fit over the sills? This is the best solution, which I'm considering buying myself.

    Here's a link to the ECS website -Audi B7 S4 V8 ECS News RS4 Jack Pad Kit for your B6/B7 A4/S4 plus the parts page itself Audi B7 S4 V8 Search SiteSearch RS4 Jack Pad Kit - 8E0801789KT2 - RS4 Jack Pad Kit - ES#2598405

    If you use a jack like this you'll be able to fit an axle stand other end of the car on the other jack pad? Or you could use drive on ramps instead?

    [​IMG]

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    [Apr 26, 2014]
    You can use these points:

    The rear wheel suspension arm
    uploadfromtaptalk1398516275954.jpg

    The front:
    uploadfromtaptalk1398516333807.jpg

    You can see the bolt bush that the front suspension connects to the chassis.

    They ain't the best places as the sills are better, but they will certainly work fine. Use these with the 2 post lift with no issues.
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    [Apr 26, 2014]
    Here's a picture from another thread by Andy TQ who had an exhaust fitted. You can see the front suspension lower support brackets quite clearly.

    [​IMG]
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    [Apr 26, 2014]
    I cant remember the name of the item or which post it was on... but someone did post about a type of jack and axle stand combo which worked together. it was an American company. In which the axle stand has a cutout so it fits around the jack and lifts/secures it from the same spot. very clever idea!
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    [May 17, 2014]
    This is where I use the 2 post lift on the s4

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    But if I had longer arms I would put it here on the front
    [​IMG]
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