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decent uprated clutch for an S3 required

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  1. jasongtr

    jasongtr Active Member
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    So it seems i need to replace the gearbox on my S3, might as well change the clutch whilst I'm there too.

    Any ideas what would be a decent uprated clutch to buy, I'm not running big power or even planning to do so in this car, so something good for 300hp would be fine.

    Also whats the general feeling on lightweight flywheels on these S3's worthwhile doing or steer clear.

    Cheers
     
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  3. Andrew@A.L.D

    Andrew@A.L.D May add NOS to 600+bhp?

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    Just replace it with standard gear

    No major gains to having a lightened flywheel other than lighter on your wallet to buy over the dual mass ones
     
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    ok cheers, any particular brands or go to a main dealer. Hopefully the DMF is ok as a new one of them won't be nice
     
  5. Andrew@A.L.D

    Andrew@A.L.D May add NOS to 600+bhp?

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    Anything from euro car parts or GSF will be fine
     
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    ta
     
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    uprated we just change drive plate for sachs paddle version

    works well..
     
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    ive had paddle clutches before and they are sometimes like on off switches, do these have a more stock feeling to them Bill?

    cheers
     
  9. Andrew@A.L.D

    Andrew@A.L.D May add NOS to 600+bhp?

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    I don't find the clutches Bills on about that bad. Very easy to use in traffic. Yes a little bitey but not as bad as some others I've had in the past with another car.
     
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    might take a look then, never hurts to have a better one i guess
     
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    Standard LUK clutch, release bearing and new dual mass is £380ish from Eurocar parts.

    I have the paddle plate Bills talking about. Its grabbier than a standard clutch and not great if you sit in traffic a lot, or if you like to hold the car on the clutch often, but it certainly holds the power fine
     
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    I'm hoping to get away without replacing the dual mass fly if i can
     
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    The cost of labour to do it later generally makes it more cost effective to just do it first time round
     
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    labour is free though (well other than time)
     
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    DMF's tend to 'last' around two clutch changes but generally speaking if its been on for much over 100k miles then its getting end of life realistically...

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    er 140k - ill check the history file
     
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    do you know if thats a current price as i can only see £323.94 for the DMF on its own, plus about £190 for the clutch, if thats the case i might as well go for a solid one/lighter one unless there are any downsides to having them fitted, there is a chance that any upgrades i fit might find their way eventually to my haldex mk2 golf I'm building so i dont mind shelling out the money if there is a benefit to doing so, and the lower weight appeals when its mk2 golf time
     
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    The prices on there website have no reflection on how much stuff costs if you phone them up :haha:
     
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    Have sent you a PM with a 30% off Clutches & Flywheels code at Euro Car Parts :thumbsup:
     
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    cheers, just replied
     
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    great, i noticed their prices on clutch kits went up by £40 overnight too
     
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    Anyone know how much torque a new standard LUK clutch will take?

    Will it hold hybrid K04 350bhp+ level providing you are not launching?
     
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    No
     
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    Looks like a good price, £236 for clutch kit: Stage 2 Kit for Audi S3 Quattro - 1.8i 20v Turbo 4x4 | CG Motorsport

    How does it drive? Does it have an OEM feel? Wonder what the quality is like compared to the Sachs stuff.
     
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    If you look through my build thread you can see the product when i installed it. You still have to buy the slave cylinder from a motor factors buy i think i paid like £20. The car drives really well, its quite hard to pinpoint exactly on the clutch as i have just completely rebuilt it with uprated rods however it feels much more responsive and the clutch doesn't give an on or off feel like a padel. Not heavy either. I would say it feels oem yes, nice and light.
     
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    cheers, just been quoted £247 for a new DMF, and £141 for a full LUK clutch inc slave.
     
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    found and bought a LUK dual mass flywheel and new bolts for £228.98 delivered, just need to decide now whether to use a std oem LUK clutch of pay a bit more for an uprated one
     
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    I hope you didn't buy it from techniclutch
     
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    nope carpartsforless - basically euros but their totally online arm

    and the other price i put up a few posts ago was from GSF through the guys next door to my unit on their trade account
     
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    I have been using the OE clutch setup with Sachs paddle plate on my car for a few years now... its more bitey than OE for sure but you only notice this in first gear and even then its not that bad... its not juddery like some paddle clutch setups... this could be more down to using a DMF rather than the more traditional SMF on this type of setup...

    My last one was on the car for just over 20k miles... I changed it as I was rebuilding the engine anyway and while there was possibly a bit more life in the plate I reckon its would have been only 5k of normal driving...

    The clutch handled launches and hill start/town driving impeccably and that was on my previous spec of nearly 400hp... I am using the same clutch setup now on my current spec which is 500+hp

    Will see how it goes but clutch use/feel/wear is subjective at best regardless of engine power

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    is that the 4 paddle sachs one?
     
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    Yes... the kit I used...
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    I used a new Sachs plate, the old DMF and a secondhand LuK pressure plate when I replaced it this time around

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    cheers, and I'm sure you need it for 500hp+ but id rather not risk a brand new DMF and clutch cover being eaten by a paddle clutch in 20k miles, its just not that sort of car, if it were going in my mk2 golf thats different, but the most ill ever do to this i would of thought (and I'm sure ill live to regret this comment) is keeping the standard ko4 and bolt ons/remap, for this car I'm not really wanting to get into rods etc. knocking on the door of 300hp is fine for now, big power will come in the golf, and lets face it its still much quicker than my A6 2.8 quattro bus
     
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    id have to buy it first
     
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    what gains can be achieved with a lightweight flywheel?
     
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    decided to buy a LUK standard clutch - got the complete 3 piece kit for £111.99 delivered, thought long and hard about buying an uprated one but i doubt ill ever go much more than a remap and bolt ons so would never see more than 280 ish hp, ill save the cash for the mk2 golf.
     

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