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Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by murrayj07, Jun 6, 2013.

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    Having a little ponder on what mods i can do to my 1.8t 2001? one of the thoughts i had was a decat? love the sound of decat cars so can anyone tell me the ins and outs of fitting/lambda? Also, its a standard backbox i have? will this affect it at all? Thanks!
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    i have a decat and standard back box, little bit more noise nothing major, had to replace the lambda but it was on the was out anyway so it will be ok
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    SO just sticking it on should be sound? possible lambda change though? does it backfire at all? and whats the noise like? like.... loud on acceleration and quiet on cruising?
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    get it done, get one of ebay for £90 comes with downpipe thats pretty much what everyone here is running and sounds awsome for me around 6k revs proper pops
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    I may be wrong but I've heard a decat on an S3 is pretty much pointless performance wise? The twin cat setup is so well made, it isn't restrictive enough to make a decat beneficial. That twinned with the hassle of putting the cat back on for mot time is what's deterred me from buying one. So unless you want it purely for the sound, not much point!

    Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, this is just what I've learned from researching it for myself!
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    Just realised you didn't specify for an S3 so if its the A3 I'm not sure if the exhaust set up is the same :)
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    ^^ what he said sorry was assuming you had an a3 in which case do it, s3 dont
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    yeah guys its an A3! shouldve said! it is pretty much for purely noise! Thanks!!
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    Forgot to ask! is theyre a specific type to get that will just pop straight on? dont want any sort of lambda issues coming up? and i'll just be getting the garage to fit it so does the lambda become affected at all?
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    [Jun 11, 2013]
    Downpipe n decat deffo, just done mine n it sounds sweet :). Turbo spools up quicker and you can now hear the turbo whistling on tick over :) seems to rev much better too.
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    Nice just ordered a full 2.5" system from blue flame with decat, looking forward to seeing the results
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    does that come ready to fit? stick it on and off ya go?
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    if your talking about the one i posted then yes straight fit 1hr job tops if the o2 sensors are a pita
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    yep buy it, easy to be honest just a bit tight sometimes, if you bolt the black box you can un clip them and removed the whole lot to make it easier
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    [Jul 16, 2013]
    What about the lambda sensor?
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    thats what i was talking about that there a bit tight on there just unbolt the black box etc, take a look and your get it
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    What is it about the Lambda are you specifically asking? as your A3 is a 2001 it will be an AUM engine code and wideband so the wideband lambda probe (one closest the turbo) MUST be fitted in the right hole... the second lambda (post CAT) will require a spacer (never used one myself so don't know how well they work) or for the post CAT probe to be coded out in the map...

    The DP you have linked to seems to have provision for both probes.. on some ebay DP's I have seen the post CAT fitting is capped anyway so doesn't see exhaust gas anyway...

    I would advise using an OE gasket for the turbo/DP (4 bolt one) as the supplied gasket are next to useless...

    Should also mention they (laughably) advertise this as A3/S3 DP.... it won't fit an S3 (neither will it fit an A3 quattro), completely different beast... :)

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    Good description, but i was wondering in basic terms, if i order that on ebay, and (for arguements sake) take it to my local garage, theyre would be no issues? obviously there are no gaurentees, but 99%?
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    Having never fitted one personally I couldn't really comment...

    Issues you may have are mating the DP to the existing system... don't know the diameters of the pipework involved so its possible a reducer of some description will be needed..

    Only thing I can say about the post cat lambda is that typically without a cat it will throw a CEL and fault code (cat efficiency one normally)... so if it has a capped bung then this 'may' sort it but... on some I have seen the tube extends well into the DP essentially blocking it anyway so seems a bit pointless... just check this...

    Only way I know to guaranty no light is coding out...

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    After putting my sports cat on my car I got the light on the dash which I could clear but would come back after 10mins.

    Got one of the lambda spacers off ebay for not too much money and it made the light stay off. I then got my software upgraded a few months later which coded out the light so have now removed the spacer so can confirm they do work.
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    Get the decat, the garage wont have a problem fitting it, if they do then you need a new garage, i would strognly recommend doing it yourself tho, its probably one of the easiest jobs ive done on my car to date, your engine light will come on regarding the post cat sensor either get a spacer of ebay or get a map, map would be the more enjoyable route ;)
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