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Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by [Dave B], Sep 15, 2013.
LOL the french are invading the germans, oh the irony!
I think we need our own thread starting...
Right, time to get this back on track. From an earlier post you'll see that I acquired these:
They came with the carriers, some worn pads and some ok discs. From reading the brake thread I now need the following:
- Leon Cupra R lines (braided?)
- Plain discs
- Decent pads
The car won't see any track work so I don't need anything to racey! Where's the best place to source this stuff from? B5?
Bill can supply all including braided brake lines... pads wise there is no reason not to use DS2500's on a road setup as they are better than std pads... they will work more than once if you have to use them 'urgently'
Except they are illegal.....
What's illegal about DS2500's? news to me!
In which case maybe we should all stop de-catting, fitting hids and generally modding cars...
..but in case there are those of us that like to live on the wild side of life here is some useful info...
Ferrodo DS2500 'and EU Reg 90 - SEAT Cupra.net - SEAT Forum
And this is quite helpful:
Ferodo DS2000 / DS2500 Difference? - General Maintenance - BRISKODA.net - The Skoda Forum and Community
I didn't even realise DS2000 existed till I ordered some Ferodo performance pads and they had "DS2000" printed on them
Westy - interesting info on the DS2000's, if they're much cheaper than the DS2500's then they'd probably do me TBH.
Suppose I should PM Bill and get some info on the damage then.
We all know its bull**** but the fact is still there...knowledge is king..
Quick googleing and it appears they are illegal for cars built after 2000 due to not having a ECE R90 rating.
AudiSRS.com :: Brake pads for street and track
Ferodo DS2500 pads mk4 GSi. - Page 3
ECE R90 - EBC Brakes
Some reading for you.
I think Dave gets the idea don't you
Also dont think an MOT tester or police man will be dismantling the brakes...unless theres an accident with brakes at fault of course
I wouldn;t bother with DS2500s for road use personally.
Genuine Brembo pads are very good and about £35 from opie oils.
They also have more material than a ds2500 so last longer.
They'll fade eventually if you abuse them a lot, but are generally pretty good
Thanks for the info gents, I've got some prices now to have a chew over. The first decision that needs to be made though is what colour to paint the calipers! For reference, it's a Ming Blue Pearl car. My current short-list is as follows:
...or maybe Cadburys purple:
Thoughts, any other ideas? The colours I'm avoiding are Red, yellow, orange, green, gold, silver and white
I like the Mexico blue mate.
Thanks Westy, I'm kinda liking the brightness of them too.
For ref here's a pic of what looks like a ming blue S3 with red Brembo's (not my car) on it.....anyone handy with photoshop fancy making those red calipers Mexico blue?
What about trying a light grey colour? It will make them stand out but they'll still match the Ming blue nicely.
But then again, I do like the look of this:
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Is this April fools? Surely black?
That last color looks decent actually. The others look a bit.... Nova.
Although out of the colours i think ming blue favours the Cadbury purple
I do like that last blue also, not to keen on the first two tbh
Good shout, maybe like this but with just the brembo stickers?
LOL! I actually owned a Nova at one point
I'm thinking lighter then that and non metallic otherwise it'll look silver, which you're trying to avoid
We might have a winner:
What about this with red Brembo stickers too:
Obviously I'm biased but the anodised Touareg finish is pretty nice...
The anthracite does look nice though too. Always wanted my wheels that color...
Sooooooo it's been about 7 months since I updated this thread, you can see why it's taken me 10 years to start one in the first place! However I do have good excuses, the V6 has kept me busy on sunny days:
...and my daughter Eva was on 22nd August
When I have had the opportunity to tinker the S3 has had a full service including Haldex fluid and filter change and a new NSR caliper (as the original was binding), so now she's running great. No Brembo's fitted yet though....
Next on the agenda is finally getting back around to having it remapped. Following a positive phone call with @Rick @ Unicorn Motor Dev. this morning she's, booked in for 7th October. Results to follow
despite only one picture and it wasn't VAG, theyre is so much epic in that post :thumbsup:
What's going on with a remap Dave ?
I know you had a jabba sport remap originally, then badger had a play with your car, you've got R-tech on your avatar and now heading to Unicorn ??
@Essflee, sorry, reading back I can see why it might be a bit confusing.
Last year I planned to go to R-tech but due to their distance from me, and the good things I've read about Unicorn (who are only 30 minutes from me) I thought I'd give them try. Rick seemed to know his stuff when we spoke on the phone and if there are any problems it's easy enough for me to get the car back to him again.
Fingers crossed for a good result.
That V6 is so nice. What's it like to drive?
Honestly? It's an event in it's own right, and comparable to little else that I've driven. It's not blisteringly quick as it's quite heavy, but the attraction isn't in the numbers it's in the driving experience. The noise in the cabin is I'd imagine what crack is to an addict, there's a fat seam of torque on offer from 1500rpm to north of 8krpm and as the drive is through the rear and the wheel base is so short you're constantly focussing on getting the line right on the next corner before you enter it (god help you if you come off throttle mid corner). It commands 100% focus driving it, which I think is what makes it a good weekend car, it'd be pretty tiring driving it every day, not to mention hugely impractical!
Then there's the ownership experience, this car is not for you if you can't handle a bit of attention as you get noticed everywhere. I regularly have people driving up next to me on the motorway and winding their window down to have a conversation about it and take pictures - whilst we're still doing 70. People's reaction is firmly in two camps. One bunch who love it, these are generally male and can be of all ages. The other bunch are mainly women, I've had comments suggesting I fitted the bodykit myself (ROFL) and when bringing it home my wife asked me why I had bought an "Ali G" car.....
If you're ever up Manchester way let me know and I'll take you for a spin in it
I'll take you up on that offer Dave. I'm on my way now
It is a car that I've always admired. I've only ever seen one on the road and I've only ever sat in one in a Renault showroom 10 years ago when I bought my 182. I'm sure that I'll never ever own one, mainly due to most of your reasons above. To be able to own one as a "toy" would be the only sensible way but the price these cars still cost to buy it must be an expensive thing to have sat in the garage most of the time.
You sir have a nice little car collection in the making. You'll need a quadruple gargle soon.
my dad works for Renault and when the phase 1 was launched he test drove a few and claims they are dangerous, he thought he was gonna write it off. Part of the attraction for me, its mental
That was one of the alternatives on my list when I bought my S3. A true modern classic. Went with the S3 for quality & practicality in the end, but still love the V6. The driving experience is so addictive with the engine on the back seat, but I'm not sure I fancy pressing on in the winter down wet country roads in one...
Honestly mate, the offer stands if you're ever up this way. I agree they have to be a toy realistically, I stretched pretty far (probably too far) to get one but with prices rising hopefully I won't lose out even if it just sits in the garage looking shiny. I'm not sure if I've posted earlier but the 205 is unfortunately now sold so it's just the S3 and V6 now. It was sad to see it go but I got good money for it as there was a queue of buyers fighting over it!
This! The phase 2 is more stable than the phase 1 but still a handful.
Agreed, this is not advised. I've inadvertently slid it both times I've driven it in the wet. It's pretty much dry use only now.
The S3 makes a great stable mate for it actually as it's quick enough, safe, all weather capable and a bit practical - not quite as practical as a B7 RS4 avant though............
Yeah, that's why I didn't bother with an RS4 Avant - they're just too practical.