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Dane's Hybrid Conversion Thread

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by Dane, Apr 11, 2011.

  1. Dane
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    Dane Had an 8L S3, a B5 RS4 now I have a B8 S4

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    power steering and everything! :nyah:

    to be fair its a good little run around, £30 for 80% of a tank.
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    Westy Double Dark Side! Diesel & 8P

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    Are they genuine Nissan hub caps? WOW ;)
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    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Tuffty would be proud....
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    I reallly want to lower it, really really really
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    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Here is a fellow Neeeeeesan which has been slammed - maybe this approach would work?

    [​IMG]
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    its in bits.. no exhaust, no downpipe, no turbo...... thanks to tuffty
    I was fighting the manifold... which is a fecking arse of a job.. change of tack on this and new fittings ordered which I hope will ease the manufacture. All jigged up now.. just waiting on these new parts.
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    Nice one chaps! Are you around this evening?
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    Right so I've just got back from Bills - it feels like it takes forever in the micra!

    The turbo now has a hole in it where it should be

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    Empty space where the mani and turbo usually are

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    Exhaust bits on the floor

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    And a turbo and manifold that looked to be in pretty good nick bit blurry though lol.

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    I'm going to go back on Wednesday to maybe see some manifold action mmmmm
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    Good stuff matey, not long till you're booting it around in a nice fast S3 again ;)
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    I might get lucky with a milltek too they were due for production this week apparently so we shall see. Canne wait like!
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    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    This is 29 Acacia Road...

    And this is Dane - the man who leads an amazing double life...

    For when Dane gets in his Micra, an amazing transformation occurs...

    Dane is Micraman! Ever alert for the call to action!
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    fittings arrived first thing.. :)
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    Nice, thats a good start to the day!
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    I bet that was a light box....
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    So what manifold are you going with Dane?


    LOL at Welly!
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    Bills fabricating one :rockwoot:
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    Oh thats just not fair! He always said he would never make one. Wheres my dummy i need to spit it out of my pram lmao
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    Bill's not silly. He knows that if his mani is good then they'll sell like hot cakes ;)
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    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    It's currently a very small market, with very few known to be long term reliable items in it at the end of the day. Well worth experimentation at least.
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    I wish id gone BT know:asskicking::asskicking::asskicking:
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    Is the turbo being done without the head coming off ? :)

    No doubt, Bill's manifold will get a lot of thought going into, could be the birth of the Badger5 K04 manifold lol
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    Hey hey someone noticed! Yep the head is still on, although I may well have a leaky rocker cover seal.
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    Ahhh leaky rocker cover......10min job for Welly, Paul and Bill lol :laugh:

    Will be interesting to see what the results are with this hybrid build, especially with the custom manifold
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    Keep your measurements Bill!
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    Na dont bother just get me a gt35 lol i wish
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    aside from this mk1's an arse of a job... so many little faults... comes in just for mapping, yea Right! FFS
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    actually I have one in stock with manifold to suit.. :p
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    manifold wise its an experiment.. and quite costly one for me in time and parts... but as I have no confidence in anything otherwise available currently (edit: forgot about the TSR one.. ruled out on cost basis only, not quality), needs must... Its not a simple job... We will see what transpires.
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    I didnt commision Bill to make the mani, I'm just the willing test subject :thumbsup:
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    As i say keep the measurements bill,...lol you are probably just as close as all the other ones in development, the s3 is going to be in a museum waiting for JBS ,,
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    Well good on you Bill for pushing the boundries if it wasnt for you i think we'd still be at about 320 bhp on the hybrids just a shame i had to be one of the first. So how much of a nightmare was it to take the manifold of with out the head off?
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    Dont tell me that. Come on National Lottery i need more power!
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    Hi Bill,

    You think the TSR one is not up to the job then ?

    Or is it a cost/time scale thing that rules it out.

    Regards
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    Bore size that lets it down - it's simply too big and makes the little lagless K04 drive like a BT car from what I have seen and heard....
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    Hi Welly,

    Do you have any data or links you can share from the example(s) you have seen/heard about ?

    As far as I know only two are actually in existence... mine & one that I think was sold to someone from SCN but I have not heard anything more about that one… hence my interest in what you know.

    A bit more lag was indeed observed during our own first tests but we are not talking about a huge amount..

    After a little fettling the impact on spool times were quiet negligible... present yes but small. To be honest with some more tweaks I think it quiet possible they could be eliminated almost completely. (Bearing in mind the turbo also has a slightly weaker actuator, & ported waste gate compared to the logs I posted ages ago made with the stock mani)


    Here is one log of our mani testing where we have saturated the MAP sensor by 3120rpm, so I would hardly describe that as lag similar to what’s seen with BT's.. would you ?

    [​IMG]

    Regards
    Morgan
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    That paints a somewhat different picture to the data that I saw...

    In retrospect, and taking the above into account that is not bad at all hitting full boost at 3100 is indeed not bad at all.

    I will try and find the data I saw - I can't remember where it was as I was looking into it back when I was changing manifold every 2 mins late last year...

    If I find it I shall PM you.

    Adding to this, I have just glanced at the outputs from the hybrid on the XS power mani - that wasn't reaching full boost until 3500 using smaller runners than the TSR...
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