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Dane's Hybrid Conversion Thread

Dane Apr 11, 2011

  1. Westy

    Westy Well-Known Member

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    Oh no, I've only just spotted the update to this thread. Sorry to hear you're still having issues guys, it must be very disheartening.
     
  2. Speedy Steve

    Speedy Steve Active Member

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    Very sad news for you guys. So theres a manifold going hey??? hum wheres my credit card
     
  3. Pedrosousa

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    The problem of GT30R is that there aren't plug and play kits...
     
  4. Westy

    Westy Well-Known Member

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    The two hybrids Dane has tried haven't been plug and play either. Well, plug but no play!
     
  5. s3dave

    s3dave TFSI Hybrid Supporter

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    Uploaded with ImageShack.us.....:laugh:
     
  6. Westy

    Westy Well-Known Member

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    What is that Dave? It looks more like a sea bird than a vulture :think:
     
  7. Pedrosousa

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    I'm waiting to decide what to, hybrid or BT...
     
  8. Sam_

    Sam_ Down under

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    Yeah, that's not a vulture haha
     
  9. Westy

    Westy Well-Known Member

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    From the builds I've seen and from the comments made by those people I think i'd personally go for a BT. But it all comes down to money and drivability.
     
  10. s3dave

    s3dave TFSI Hybrid Supporter

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    Its a vulture..i think an exotic one...ha ha

    The Indian Scavenger or Egyptian Vulture
     
    Last edited: Jul 29, 2011
  11. s3dave

    s3dave TFSI Hybrid Supporter

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    A well set up hybrid will be far more reliable than a BT setup...common sense
     
  12. Dane

    Dane Had an 8L S3, a B5 RS4 now I have a B8 S4

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    Yeah, you know what your getting with a garrett though and im not too bothered about the work involved its pretty much been apart enough times already.

    Cheers for the support chaps, I'll get it back and see how it behaves ;)

    If it goes bt I'd like c. 400 brake :eyebrows:
     
  13. badger5

    badger5 www.badger5.co.uk Site Sponsor

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    I beg to differ. ;)
    Depends on so many other factors...

    state of tune etc etc max'd out small frame unit like a hybrid or a bigger unit which is working in its comfort zone more.

    both have their merits... but the crux of this fiasco on Danes has been poor quality turbo supplier(s)
    It beggars belief what gets sent out as a ready to use turbo..

    and I have "yet another fcuking turbo" here for another car which is guess what?!?!?!??! Not bloody right as supplied either!
    spot the obvious issue on this one.. there should be no light from beneath the penny washer! or loose.. Un-Fecking-Believable!

    YOUTUBE VIDEO BELOW
    ‪loose wastegate 1‬‏ - YouTube


    FFS - I want to go home

    A Furious BADGER sits here currently.
     
    Last edited: Jul 29, 2011
  14. Westy

    Westy Well-Known Member

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    I dont dissagree with that Dave it's just my personal opinion ;)
     
  15. Pedrosousa

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    This is the main problem, what hybrid, what exhaust manifold???

    I was hoping that the (F23+Franken Manifold) setup could do 300 without WMI....
     
  16. badger5

    badger5 www.badger5.co.uk Site Sponsor

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    Hmm, so was I.. We all were.
    Not even close in this instance.
     
  17. s3dave

    s3dave TFSI Hybrid Supporter

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    The strain on non engine related parts alone...
    Your obviously pushing the boundaries on a BT so things are going to break sooner rather than later,
    Thats why i went for the middle of the road, with an hybrid...:icon_thumright:
    Depends what you are after and the money you are prepared to shell out, knowing Dane likes the white knuckle side of it, he maybe should have gone BT from the offset, he would have probably have been bored with hybrid power very quickly .
     
  18. s3dave

    s3dave TFSI Hybrid Supporter

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    Is that with the actuator preloaded bill? just looked at mine and when you take the tension off, my penny is just as loose..?
     
  19. Dane

    Dane Had an 8L S3, a B5 RS4 now I have a B8 S4

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    :laugh: hindsight is a wonderful thing.
     
  20. badger5

    badger5 www.badger5.co.uk Site Sponsor

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    I think, had Danes gone like wellys had it would have been a great package, but from the start, the messed up CR unit and defective hotside put the kaibush on that, and F23 tried instead.. 300whp claims etc seemed good. The rest is history. :(

    oh joy!
     
  21. Westy

    Westy Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone considered going the same route as Welly?
     
  22. badger5

    badger5 www.badger5.co.uk Site Sponsor

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    that is as supplied Dave (the youtube) with supposed preload.. which is'nt possible as there was insufficient thread length on the rod anyhows.
    ran a die down it another 5mm-8mm so it now has some preload and holds shut.
     
  23. badger5

    badger5 www.badger5.co.uk Site Sponsor

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    Barks is..
    V1 CR unit, 2283 wheel, no clipped turbine, AEB head, rods... 550cc injectors etc etc etc (ported by me, on genuine BW hotside only)
    Only question mark on that is AH's crappy original FMIC coping with it or not
     
  24. s3dave

    s3dave TFSI Hybrid Supporter

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    Are the pennys supposed to spin though without preload
     
  25. badger5

    badger5 www.badger5.co.uk Site Sponsor

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    they are supposed to be held shut.. and with some preload, which they will need to stay shut, they wont easilt spin no.
     
  26. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Having talked to Dane about this yesterday on the phone, I know how he feels.

    Disappointment is a hard pill to swallow, however I managed to 'get there in the end'.

    Sorry to hear the F23 just didn't work out guys - bummer.

    I know how much time and effort has gone into this from all aprties that have been involved, especially you Bill.

    End result = booooo.
     
  27. Barks

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    F23.. thats a real shame, but I can understand everyones fustration, quality issues are just ****!!! I imagine this has put everyone of hybrid for a while.... Just think Dane you will probally go bigger and better!!!
     
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2011
  28. s3dave

    s3dave TFSI Hybrid Supporter

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    While it is a shame, and everybody was eager of the outcome, this was a prototype turbo, and im sure frankenturbo will address the issues, going by cr turbos lack of detail to there brand... im sure the f23 will evolve.. dont forget if it was not for these companys we would all be driving our boring standard cars, unfortunatly for some, someone has to pay the price...as long as we all are learning in the process it will all come out good......swings and roundabouts...
     
  29. Dane

    Dane Had an 8L S3, a B5 RS4 now I have a B8 S4

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    Plus 1, it's all a learning curve!
     
  30. badger5

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    that video is'nt CR dude.. Its not their turbo..
     
  31. badger5

    badger5 www.badger5.co.uk Site Sponsor

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    F23 is not a prototype turbo.. Its sold as an available K04 hybrid with claims of 300whp *cough*
    Reality is somewhat wide off this however. In airflow terms for this power claim to be real, it would need to flow 270g/s and it most certainly does not. (2283 CR unit on speedy steve's had logged an airmass of 270g/s I recall)
     
  32. Broken Byzan

    Broken Byzan Photographic Moderator Staff Member Moderator VCDS Map User quattro Audi A4

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    I have to say i am disuaded from going that route myself now from what i have read and seen.

    It's just a shame some of it was at Danes/ Bill expense. Keep it up guys, don't give up !!

    Maybe it's a dodgy batch or something?
     
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2011
  33. StaceyS3

    StaceyS3 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry to hear about your issues

    I'm sure you'll end up with the tarmac eater you desire which ever route you go :racer:
     
  34. Barks

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    Ah oops, I retract that comment then, my bad!

    There does seem to be real quality issues that could be easily overcome with just a little thought with all the suppliers. Then no one would have to pay the price of 'manufacturing' defects.

    Which ever route is taken, I am sure it will turn out well, keep up the good work
     
  35. badger5

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    Plans are afoot with messer Dane.. ;)
     
  36. Barks

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    Any clues????
     
  37. StaceyS3

    StaceyS3 Well-Known Member

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    Oooo BT??? GT?? 30???
     
  38. voorhees

    voorhees Moderator Staff Member Moderator Team V8 Audi S5 s tronic

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  39. Dane

    Dane Had an 8L S3, a B5 RS4 now I have a B8 S4

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    Haha pretty much! Lots if time and effort gone in for it to have Gone as it has. Lessons learned and all that, I hope it provides some useful info into the future!

    If we go with it, it'll be a top mount garrett fo sho ;)
     
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