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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by RobinA3, Sep 12, 2008.

  1. RobinA3
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    RobinA3 Well-Known Member

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    [Sep 12, 2008]
    Hello

    Anyone good at computers?

    My PC is getting slow on start up and i know there is some way of disabling some programs that autostart when the PC is booting, can anyone tell me how i access this option and also is there a list of programs which need to start when the pc is booting up on the web anywhere?

    Also i remember someone telling me that i should delete all the temp internet files as that takes up alot of space on the HD but instead of deleting them through explorer you can go through my computer, document and settings................but i don't know where they are stored after that. Anyone in the know by any chance?
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    Geordie Mike Yeee-haw

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    If you google "slow start up" you'll get a lot of good advice, but the basics are defragment your hard drive (start menu, all programs, accessories, system tools), move as much stuff off your desktop as possible and delete your temporary files. You can do it through internet explorer, but you can also do it through "disk cleanup" which is in the same system tools folder as the disk defragmenter.

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    richs2891 I cant spell !

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    Do you mean msconfig ? Start, run, msconfig amd enter ? Allow you to see what the pc starts up on boot time. Then untick stuff like itunes, office helper, msn etc - basically the stuff you see in the bottom right by the clock
    Dont disable antivirus and if unsure restart after every change. Top 5 or 6 listings generally need for a normal boot - assuming xp - vista at works so cant check !

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    Nilz Defo worth the wait :)

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    You can go to start programs and look in the startup folder, see whats in there, if there is stuff you dont need then move it out.

    you can also delete temp internet files from the internet - tools, internet options, temp internet files - delete files (this can take a while depending on how many you have)
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    Also make sure you have good and up-to-date anti-virus and spyware programs. (Ad-Aware Personal, Spybot Search & Destroy)
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    MintyS3 Works 60% the time, Everytime.

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    What he sais.

    We use malwarebytes here and does a good job. Download and run ccleaner too. That will make sure all temp files are removed which windows quite often misses and will try and correct any registry issues.

    Go into add/remove hardware and get rid of any programmes you dont use.

    What operating system are you using?
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    The advice above are the kinds of things you need to be doing...

    De-Fragmenting your Hard Drive(s) is a great idea - people rarely do this and after a long time enough adding/moving/removing data will fragment a file system and slow it down pretty severely. As stated, find Disk Defragmenter in the System Tools folder off the Programs/Accessories menu. If you have difficulty with it reporting that it can't complete the job because of access to the file system(s) interrupting it, let us know and I'll recommend some third party stuff that probably won't struggle.

    Clearing out temporary files can help, but normally only if things are really badly clogged up - a handy utility is available from http://www.diskcleaner.nl/ which will help - if there are things on the list you're not sure about clearing though, un-check them.

    MSCONFIG is the tool (as stated, run from the 'run' box on the Start Menu) which allows you to over-ride the registry-configured start-up applications - you'll probably end up setting it to boot your machine in a diagnostic/debug start-up, but there's a check-box on the first start up to tell it not to nag you about that. If you've got any doubts about what particular items in the list, avoid disabling them - post the name and path here and we'll advise you on whether or not it's safe or brave

    Also, updating virus/spyware protection can help if your machine's clogged up with junk. Some of the free packages aren't bad but at the same time don't always catch everything. For simple options try AVG Anti-Virus and Ad-Aware free versions. They're by far the most competent but they will help and they're straighforward. Spyware Doctor is a great little package - you can get a free version of that which will highlight what it finds, but you do have to register (not massively expensive) to remove things. As my main laptop is connected to a corporate domain it runs Symantec AntiVirus corporate edition - that, if updated daily, is probably one of the better packages - it sits quietly doing its thing, offers great anti-virus protection and at the same time pretty decent anti-mal/spyware - it doesn't use masses of system resources either, nor does it have all the nagging that are in its sibling Norton consumer products.

    Have you got Windows set to automatically update hardware drivers? If it's pulling in driver updates itself it may have updated one which isn't necessarily the best version - poor chipset drivers or disk controller (eg SATA/RAID) drivers can make the Hardware Abstraction Layer run like a pig (and setting up HAL/enumerating devices is probably the largest part of the 'pre-desktop' boot process) - but then fiddling with things like this can be risky if you're not confident. Do you know the full spec of the machine you're using?

    Anyway, have a look at the advice further up the thread and maybe what I've had to say, see if it helps and let us know...

    Regards,

    Rob.

    PS> There is equally a chance that you'll not speed it up drastically, the best thing to do in that case is level it and start with a fresh install - but that might not be something you want/feel confident to do?...
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    Thanks for all the advice chaps

    I have done the disk clean up and its made a massive difference, it took the computer 8hrs to delete all the old unused files!

    One thing though i have noticed is that my documents and settings folder has gone from the C:drive, i can access it by typing it into the address bar but when i go into the C drive its not there.
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    The folder may be hidden, what you need to do is go to tools, folder options, then view, then there is an option to show hidden files or folders....hope that helps....
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    Don't waste your time with that ****, buy Symantec.

    That said, none of it really works, just best of a bad bunch.....
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    Symantec must have a built-in anti-spyware tool nowadays then. I use McAfee myself and have never (touch wood) had any problems on my home PC. I used to have Norton but had probs with it and it's ability to nest itself in your registry and not let you install McAfee.

    Always thought Ad-Aware was quite good as it still finds spyware that McAfee doesn't.
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    I wouldnt waste my money.

    The free software these days are more then adequate.
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    I'm not sure I'd say 'more than adequate' about the free stuff - AVG and its peers are pretty effective, and catch most infections - it's just that sometimes they can be a little slower to include new threats in their definitions. Not long, perhaps 24 hours or less, but if you want really up-to-the-minute protection I'd be looking elsewhere; but not everyone needs something to that level. AVG and the others seem to 'nag' a little too much sometimes too...

    I'd say Symantec Corporate Edition strikes a pretty good balance - The heuristics engine is very good, and new definitions are injected into the database very quickly - if you set it to update daily or more regularly than that, you're probably as protected as you'll get. It never really nags about anything - simply sitting in your system-tray doing its thing (even scheduled updates) pretty silently. The only time I've ever seen it pop-up a window of any type is to tell me that it's intercepted something on its way in - and even then, there's not much messing about - it simlpy gets rid of it and pops up to warn you. Running Firefox and Symantec Corporate Edition I've never had anything actually get so far as to infect and spread in my machine. That said though, not everyone has (legit) access to Symantec Corporate Edition; and to be honest I'd probably use AVG or similar before most of the others - Norton especially; even though the engine is more or less identical to that of Symantec Corporate Edition, it gets close to infecting your machine with itself far worse than any virus/malware would, runs like a pig in calipers, breaks down more often than an Alfa Romeo with a sump full of sand and pops-up with dialogue messages to inform you about anything, even perhaps that it's Wednesday...

    Regards,

    Rob.
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