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Coming to a Smooth Stop With S Tronic

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    When testing S Tronic A3s, I haven't been able to stop smoothly. In my current DSG 7-speed car, I like to apply the brake and then gradually let go as the car slows to the point that the car feels like it's out of gear and can come to a rolling stop and not creep.

    The S Tronic has felt very willing to either creep forward or stop firmly, not giving me that neutral feel that would allow me to gently roll to a stop as I do in my current car.

    If anyone understands what I'm describing, do you know if it's just a case of practicing using the brake pedal with S Tronic, or will it always come to a firm stop?
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    I haven't found braking any different to driving a manual. Starting off though I am finding has a bit of a knack. I think when at a complete stop, the car comes out of gear, so you need to come off the brake earlier to allow it to engage gear and start to creep.
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    I feel that too, a tiny bit of jerking when coming to the final stop, in my mum car (also automatic) it just smoothly rolls to a stop.
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    I do find my s3 is like that. Not a major problem and have got used to it. Has hill hold assist got anything to do with the two differences here?
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    I'm speccing Hold Assist in hope that it does make a difference. One of the dealers told me it prevents creeping when switched on. It's a real shame as I love this car, but I used to love coming to a smooth stop as if I were driving a manual in my old DSG. It's the same gearbox mechanically, so it must just be differences in programming.
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    I have 6-speed S-tronic and no hold assist and have never noticed this. Is there a unique combination that causes this?
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    I has this when I first got the car but adapted my cadence braking style over time and it's barely noticeable now. The trick was to release pressure in a couple of stages, the penultimate being when the car was travelling slightly slower than creep speed. This last part prevents the gearbox thinking it needs to re-engage at the last moment as if you had just popped the clutch (manual equivalent).

    If I understand your manual analogy then autos will probably never be quite as smooth as that, since you are basically freewheeling the last 1-2 feet with the clutch pedal down until the car comes to stop and then holding with the brake.

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    I think you might be right. I dont have hill hold, and i havent noticed any differences to normal braking
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    Everyone has hill hold - it's standard kit
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    i think its a £90 optional extra. I certainly dont have the button next to the hand brake button
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    No, that's just cemerson being pernickety (but correct). We all have hill hold, it's hold assist that is the £90 option.
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    I was thinking about this the other day

    When I brake less hard it doesnt happen, and when I drive around in S mode its more accentuated, but I like that

    Had quite a few autos over time, aswell as manuals, and the autos all creep forward from stationary unless youre going up a hill if you take your photo off the brake when in drive. I sometimes if on the flat, and cant be arsed to keep my foot on the brake, put the car in neutral, I think the handbook says not to do this, but why have a neutral then...I do look out for people behind me who might shunt me into the middle of a junction !
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    I tried various settings on the way home tonight to see what you were experiencing.

    It didn't matter whether the gearbox was in normal or Sport mode but I could still come to a smooth gentle halt. I have Hold Assist and also tried switching that off. Still could stop smoothly. Made it a fun journey home though!

    To answer your question in the quote above: Hold Assist will stop the car creeping forward. Without it you have to either hold on the footbrake, use handbrake or shift to N or P. It did seem slightly easier to stop smoothly with Hold Assist, but that may be just because I use it almost all the time.

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    Thanks, John. That's really helpful. I'm sure I'll get the hang of it once I drive the car long enough!
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    Sounds like you will get the hang of it...practice makes perfect...just watch the left foot braking ! :wacko:
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