1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

clutch DIY

Discussion in 'A4/S4 forum(B5 Chassis)' started by jcb, Oct 27, 2012.

  1. jcb
    Offline

    jcb Active Member VCDS Map User

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2005
    Messages:
    4,118
    Likes Received:
    13
    [Oct 27, 2012]
    so my clutch is about to give up on me.
    could really do without the pain of paying someone to do it but am thinking it might be easier to pull the engine than pull the gearbox.

    thoughts?

    anyone done this without a lift/ramp?

    I dont fancy manhandling the gearbox back on from underneath whilst on axle stands
    #1
  2. Ads

    Ads

    [Sep 21, 2014]

  3. Broken Byzan
    Offline

    Broken Byzan Photographic Moderator Staff Member Moderator VCDS Map User

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2004
    Messages:
    12,604
    Likes Received:
    276
    [Oct 27, 2012]
    Iv'e done both ways, If i had a crane i'd do the engine out and probbly do some other jobs while i'm at it, .When i did the avant i didn't have a crane so dropped the box. Just make sure you check for oil leaks ont he first motion shaft. I have seen it twice now. I have a spare ready to go into mine when i drop the motor.
    #2
  4. Bradderz_1988
    Online

    Bradderz_1988 Dont replace it, Upgrade it !!

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2010
    Messages:
    3,233
    Likes Received:
    106
    [Oct 27, 2012]
    Do you have a 'DONK' friend who could throw the box in for a tinny lol it would be a lot kess hassle pulling the box rather than the box engine together IMO i find the boxes relatively easy on these cars compared to transverse cars the whole design off driveshaft flanges instead of losing gear oil makes it a doddle rather than oil going everywhere, is there not one off them garages near you were you can pay to use ramps and tools think scottB5 used one of these and had a good experience if your not willing to pay some one and do it on your back it might be the best way unless you have a 'DONK' lol sorry for the dundee quotes couldnt resist lol
    #3
  5. jcb
    Offline

    jcb Active Member VCDS Map User

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2005
    Messages:
    4,118
    Likes Received:
    13
    [Oct 30, 2012]
    cheers
    need to do some thinking

    next question....
    I have a Stage 3 Southbend clutch in place
    assuming it is not damaged or worn etc
    what is to stop me using the pressure plate again with a new friction disc?
    #4
  6. aragorn
    Offline

    aragorn "Stick a V8 in it!" Staff Member Moderator VCDS Map User

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2008
    Messages:
    15,573
    Likes Received:
    314
    [Oct 30, 2012]
    Assuming the southbend pressure plate is geometrically identical then nothing.

    Problem is you wont really know until its apart whats actually worn out!


    If you have a crane, pull the engine. If you have a lift drop the box.

    I wouldnt want to be crawling around on my back trying to get the box in or out!
    #5
  7. jcb
    Offline

    jcb Active Member VCDS Map User

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2005
    Messages:
    4,118
    Likes Received:
    13
    [Oct 30, 2012]
    yes my thoughts exactly!

    what if I no longer have a crane or access to a lift!?

    The Southbend is geometrically identical, they basically buy Sachs clutch chassis and fit their own springs
    #6
  8. aragorn
    Offline

    aragorn "Stick a V8 in it!" Staff Member Moderator VCDS Map User

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2008
    Messages:
    15,573
    Likes Received:
    314
    [Oct 30, 2012]
    Well if you have neither then the only option is to drop the box out manually while crawling around on your back underneath, not something i'd recommend really, though it can be done.
    #7
  9. Broken Byzan
    Offline

    Broken Byzan Photographic Moderator Staff Member Moderator VCDS Map User

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2004
    Messages:
    12,604
    Likes Received:
    276
    [Oct 30, 2012]
    Get yourself a new box main shaft seal. I'd bet thats gone and contaminated the clutch
    #8
  10. jcb
    Offline

    jcb Active Member VCDS Map User

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2005
    Messages:
    4,118
    Likes Received:
    13
    [Oct 31, 2012]
    you mean a crank rear Main seal or a seal in the box this will be its 3rd clutch not had leaks as yet
    #9
  11. Soupie69uk
    Online

    Soupie69uk Owner

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2004
    Messages:
    2,787
    Likes Received:
    6
    [Oct 31, 2012]
    May as well take that miltek off while your under there!

    I would try to drop the box onto a crate or something so its easier to support for lifting. Its pretty heavy.

    Or speak to Barry and we can steal that exhaust while its up!
    #10
  12. aragorn
    Offline

    aragorn "Stick a V8 in it!" Staff Member Moderator VCDS Map User

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2008
    Messages:
    15,573
    Likes Received:
    314
    [Oct 31, 2012]
    he means the seal on the gearbox input shaft, behind the little tube that supports the clutch release bearing. They seem to fail and start leaking oil.
    #11
  13. adamss24
    Offline

    adamss24 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2007
    Messages:
    3,361
    Likes Received:
    175
    [Oct 31, 2012]
    Go and buy a crane from Machine Mart or Sealey, much easier taking the engine out and not disturbing the prop and gearbox. I have done a b6 a4 today and about to do a 1.8TQS tomorrow, both engine out jobs !
    #12
  14. jcb
    Offline

    jcb Active Member VCDS Map User

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2005
    Messages:
    4,118
    Likes Received:
    13
    [Nov 3, 2012]
    Have decided I am going to pull the engine and wheel it out the front

    will allow me to do the snub and engine mounts as well while I am at it
    Among other things i am bound to find!!

    next question:
    can I buy a friction plate by itself!?
    #13
  15. AR-rkon
    Offline

    AR-rkon BZZZZ.... caffeine fueled electrical engineer Regional Rep

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2010
    Messages:
    1,708
    Likes Received:
    78
    [Feb 21, 2013]
    Getting it out is easy... gettin it back in, Now thats Interesting...

    Did it on the side of the road, on axle stands. With the help of Jase (Voorhees). Not fun!
    #14
  16. boost-addict
    Offline

    boost-addict Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2011
    Messages:
    979
    Likes Received:
    35
    [Feb 23, 2013]
    the trouble is not havin the engine level. you have to have the rear higher to get it ion straight,

    when i do my clutch its not going to be cheap, but then the £300 saved will go on a hd clutch, timing belt and tensioner, slave cylinder and water pump and any other bits i can change while its out.
    i can access a ramp but in a garage so if i have to leave it there over night they wouldnt be happy!

    whats best way? lift engine and then remove enigne mounts from block? is it easy to get up and round to disconnect clutch slave?
    and any other bits that might snag on way down?
    #15

Share This Page