1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Charge cooler VS Fmic

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by AGU-TURBO, Feb 15, 2012.

  1. AGU-TURBO
    Offline

    AGU-TURBO Audi a3 1.8t AGU

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2010
    Messages:
    619
    Likes Received:
    5
    [Feb 15, 2012]
    Just wondering if anybody here has evr fitted one to there 1.8t and has there ever been any tests done? Looks like a realy good idea to me and they run this setup on the celica st185 back in the day which ran 300bhp (group A rally car). The plus sides are you could place this where the battery now sits and keep the pipe work as short as possible which is always a plus.

    anyway if you have no idea what a charge cooler is or you think of somthing negative to say please check out this website which should exsplain everything to you. Technical : AVT | www.chargecooler.co.uk | The UKs Leading Chargecooling Specialist, drag and race PWR Barrel Chargecoolers, charge cooler radiators, chargecooler tanks, chargecooler pumps, chargecooler pump, pipe kits, charge cooler accessories, 400
    #1
  2. Ads

    Ads

    [Dec 21, 2014]

  3. AGU-TURBO
    Offline

    AGU-TURBO Audi a3 1.8t AGU

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2010
    Messages:
    619
    Likes Received:
    5
    [Feb 15, 2012]
    This is the setup im going on my k04 conversion unless anyone can persuade me not to lol. Here is a pic of what they look like plumbed in.

    [​IMG]
    #2
  4. S3 Paul
    Offline

    S3 Paul Well-Known Member Regional Rep

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2006
    Messages:
    2,785
    Likes Received:
    75
    [Feb 15, 2012]
    Ive never seen one on a VAG car but a lad i know with a mad Focus RS was planning on using one... but then decided an efficient and well placed/ thought out FMIC set up would be a better bet.
    #3
  5. Paradox1
    Offline

    Paradox1 Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2011
    Messages:
    1,833
    Likes Received:
    86
    [Feb 15, 2012]
    Didn't b5 use one on his hybrid plus before he got a fmic for it?
    #4
  6. sportstractor
    Offline

    sportstractor Chugger

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2009
    Messages:
    2,715
    Likes Received:
    32
    [Feb 15, 2012]
    charge coolers are only as good as the system cooling them...

    there great for drag racing or if you have no space to route IC pipework, but if you have the space, Front mountied cooler is far better.
    #5
  7. <tuffty/>
    Offline

    <tuffty/> Badger 5 Edition Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2008
    Messages:
    16,448
    Likes Received:
    1,532
    [Feb 15, 2012]
    The Lupo used to run one on its K03s but proved too much for the K03 hybrid plus...

    Water is a better heat exchanger than air but there are so many decent FMIC solutions now for out cars its hardly worth the effort...

    A decent charge cooler would work but would take up a lot of space then there is the plumbing and charge coolers still use a radiator to help cool the water...

    <tuffty/>
    #6
  8. aragorn
    Offline

    aragorn "Stick a V8 in it!" Staff Member Moderator VCDS Map User

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2008
    Messages:
    15,847
    Likes Received:
    350
    [Feb 15, 2012]
    Its all down to the size of the cooler, and the size of the radiator cooling the water for the cooler.

    Typically they're used when space is at a premium and that ends up meaning the cooler itself ends up too small, and the cooler for the cooler ends up inadequate too.

    The cooler in the photos above looks smaller than the standard side mount intercooler!
    #7
  9. VAG-Slag
    Offline

    VAG-Slag Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2011
    Messages:
    700
    Likes Received:
    119
    [Feb 16, 2012]
    The Mk1 focus RS uses a charger cooler as standard, my mate was running a healthy 370 break using the standard cooler with no troubles. . . Not sure bout the MK2 RS tho

    AGU-TURBO. That charger cooler set up does look f*kcool tho! could be worth the hassle just to have something different to look at when you pop the bonnet :hubbahubba:
    #8
  10. HibiscusS4
    Offline

    HibiscusS4 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2012
    Messages:
    97
    Likes Received:
    3
    [Jul 21, 2012]
    Sorry to bump an old thread, I was searching for charge coolers on S4's and it seams no one in the world has ever tried it! That charge cooler core in the picture is the exact same one I have for my MR2, rated to 600bhp. Thats another reason for a charge cooler, when the airflow to the engine is no good (because its in the back!) you can pipe the water to wherever you need it to be cooled.

    With Air to Air you have to let the ehat transfer from the intake air to the metal of the cooler, air to metal is very good heat transfer but then you have to cool the outside of the intercooler with air, metal to air is very bad. With a CC you go (intake) Air to metal = good, metal to water also good then in the radiator water to metal and then metal to air. This is why the charge cooler core itself can be much smaller but the radiator needs to be bigger. CC's also take longer to heat soak and then longer to recover after ehat soak.
    #9

Share This Page