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Discussion in 'RS4 Forum (B5 and B7 Chassis)' started by bampy, Sep 2, 2005.

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    [Sep 2, 2005]
    I am seriously considering changing from my S3 to a fairly new RS4 are there any significant running costs to take into account account.

    Build quality aside, why an RS4 and not a M3.

    Your advise is very welcome and appreciated.
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    [Sep 13, 2005]
    RS4 is so much better than an M3..
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    [Sep 18, 2005]
    rs4 anyday mate discreet, powerfull and just a BEAST.

    m3 is a lovely motor bu theres just too many of them about.
    imo rs4 will depreciate less too
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    [Sep 19, 2005]
    Bampy,

    The maintainence costs of the RS are crazy.

    Brake discs are to be replaced on an annual basis at a cost of £500+ on top of the usual £500 service, the clutch is prone at every 35,000 mile at a cost of £1500.

    There is a gearbox issue which most has had replaced at some period. The box whines and get progressively worse with mileage/time.

    Later cars had the modifed version 2 which are a lot better, but Audi have run out of this latest revision box and now just refurbish the original box which ultimately will do the same again. Many just live with the whine and put it down as a characteristic of the car.

    My advice would be to buy as late and low mileage example as you can find. I would even pay over the odds for a good one as they are becoming rare with less than 40k miles.

    Having said all that, i think their all year round performance and the fact that they are rare and come with indicator stalks and will show an M3 its arse would have me choosing the Audi over the B M VEE.
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    [Sep 24, 2005]
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    Build quality aside, why an RS4 and not a M3.

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    That's a strange question to ask IMO.

    The RS' is such a different proposition to a M3. A real 'Q' car IMO to the average numpty in the street.

    But for those who know .....................................

    Daddy , why did that estate car just blow your car into the weeds? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

    Get the RS but don't kid yourself for one minute that it will be cheap to run.


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    [Oct 2, 2005]
    lol,it's even funnier when the s3 blows them into the weeds!
    Fancy a rs4 but heard too many stories as above.I feel the lure of stuttgarts finest.
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    [Oct 3, 2005]
    Fancy swapping to a RS4 myself. Should be ok on the servicing as bro runs the workshop at the local Audi dealer, but , and I just know this is a stupid question, how much worse is it going to be on fuel ?
    Seen them for £24-25 on a Y and X with 50k on them. So is plausable to have it for a year and not cost a great deal more than the S3.

    Got me excited now see.

    Chris.
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    [Oct 4, 2005]
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    Fancy swapping to a RS4 myself. Should be ok on the servicing as bro runs the workshop at the local Audi dealer, but , and I just know this is a stupid question, how much worse is it going to be on fuel ?
    Seen them for £24-25 on a Y and X with 50k on them. So is plausable to have it for a year and not cost a great deal more than the S3.

    Got me excited now see.

    Chris.

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    I've been on the 'RS4' route myself. started with 2 S3's, then an S4 then an RS4 and now back to another S3!

    yes RS4 is a great rare car, awesome looking car on the road, plenty of performance from a lovely flexible silky-smooth engine (which I really miss!) and easily tunable (just don't get carried away on false promises from ALL tuners!)

    Petrol wise, I got around 21MPH with a mixture of motorways and heavy right foot.

    If you do get one, don't necessarily insist on getting a low mileage one like most people want (and will pay lots more for) - pay more attention (actually lots more!) to how the car has been treated (has it been thrashed from startup? regularly serviced? enthusiast owner or ex-company car? brakes OK? ) - Get a specialist to check the car out if higher mileage. Turbos are very costly to change - engine out job (do the clutch at the same time), but the KO4 on the RS4 is bullet-proof like the S3/TT as long as they've been looked after OK.

    I think the clutch changes are inconclusive on the RS4 - some owners have had them changed at low miles, others still OK at 50k.. Mine was still original and fine at 40k miles when sold (and I drove it like it was made - enthusiastically!). Bit like the gearboxes - yes the later cars had strenghtened syncros in the lower gears but again not all early cars suffered.

    Also don't be put off by the soft wheels - covered by lifetime warranty as long as you haven't been silly driving over railway sleepers!

    Don't expect it to perform outstandingly well on the track - relatively fine on the straights but serious weight has to be transferred somewhere when cornering hard (usually rear end!) which looks like the car is tipping over (if you can stop!) - semi-sorted with suspension upgrade/brakes but then you'll have the modding bug which is expensive, addictive and to be honest, you'll be let-down by a total lack of support by the main UK Audi tuners if things go wrong (trust me there are some real horror stories out there!).

    Rear passenger compartment wise, don't expect more space than the S3 - leg wise it is as cramped due to those pesky big Recaros.

    If you can afford it, then do it and enjoy it. I did and would have another. One thing to definitely do - change the exhaust for a Milltek or similar - it really adds character to the car.
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    [Oct 12, 2005]
    Hi all
    Just purchased an RS4 myself and S3 now for sale,as above check out the car and drive a few to gauge what is a good and bad example,check out rs246.com for advice and a buying guide,go for the youngest cars too,mine has AP racing brakes fitted along with a milltech etc,service history is paramount and cam belt tensioner& pulleys must be done every40k,i personally dont rate m3 bmw's and think the interior and quality is not up with Audi's,i did consider an M5 but the "M" cars all have issues too like RS4's and S3's etc,i only got 24mpg from the S3 unless on a long run so the fuel consumption should be within a mile or 3 of the S3.
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    [Nov 23, 2005]
    Bingo....lets see that beast...post a pic!!!
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