Ok I new I had been done, as I slammed on the anchors when I saw him parked on the flyover, so I guess I could have been zapped at a higher speed. It was just a case of "waiting for the letter to come in the post to see the final speed" which came this morning, 89mph in a 70mph on the M4 between jct 34 Miskin and jct 35 Pencoed, should have know better as they are always there, but I had just come of nights and had a bout 3hrs sleep so serves me right. Anyway, have never had a fine like this as it does not state how much or how many points? it just states that I need to fill in the driver form and send it back? Last time I was done I just had a fixed penalty notice? Bit of a /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/swear.gif as well, as my only 3 points for a sp50 come off this April so would have been points free /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burningmad.gif it seems that every time I approach this I get another one /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif So what am I likely to get for 89mph on a motorway (70mph limit) ????