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Car won't start after taking out the instrument CLUSTER HELP!!!!

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  1. Gsai
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    [Mar 26, 2011]
    Hi

    I've taken out my instrument cluster, swapped it with another one cause it was literally "broken" I replaced the whole thing (I threw away the old cluster->which I shouldn't have done!) Now i'm stuck...

    When I start the car, it dies after less than a second...
    (the instrument cluster is showing me all sorts of weird things:
    -the temperature goes to the maximum
    -rpm-meter is going to the maximum, passing the 6000rpm even and goes back directly
    -the mileage doesn't show at all totally dark!

    HELP can anyone tell me what to do?


    I've scanned with VCDS and got this:
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    Chassis Type: 1K0
    Scan: 01 03 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 7D

    VIN: WAUZZZ8P64A172453 Mileage: 0km/0miles

    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.lbl
    Part No SW: 03G 906 016 G HW: 028 101 136 4
    Component: R4 2,0L EDC 0000SG 5705
    Revision: 12345678 Serial number: AUX7Z0D3FNP01K
    Coding: 0000032
    Shop #: WSC 01317 552 00000
    VCID: 2756F9C2A9B70224

    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1

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    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
    Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
    Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0103
    Coding: 0023174
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 3A7030B64A058FCC

    3 Faults Found
    00810 - Sensor 1/2 for Brake Pressure
    005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200)
    005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
    005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8P0-907-279-23-B.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 HW: 8P0 907 279 *
    Component: Bordnetz-SG 1.0 H30 0501
    Revision: 00030000 Serial number: 00000000680416
    Coding: 00884F0002141000000000000000000000
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: FAF070B68A85CFCC

    Component: Fehler Lin-Slave 01

    1 Fault Found
    02071 - Local Databus
    004 - No Signal/Communication

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    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8P0-959-655-84.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 D HW: 8P0 959 655 D
    Component: Airbag 8.4ED H00 0140
    Coding: 0010602
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 438E4D523DCFCE04

    No fault code found.

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    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 HW: 1K0 953 549
    Component: Lenksäulenmodul 012 0030
    Coding: 0000002
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: EFE651E2C1C79A64

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments Labels: None
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO
    Coding: 0000140
    Shop #: WSC 00999 444 64523
    VCID: 55AA830AC35B40B4

    2 Faults Found
    00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
    001 - Upper Limit Exceeded
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00000010
    Fault Priority: 4
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 1
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2000.01.04
    Time: 00:37:53

    00003 - Control Module
    014 - Defective
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00000011
    Fault Priority: 1
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2000.01.01
    Time: 00:00:15


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 D HW: 1K0 907 951
    Component: Gateway H08 0100
    Revision: 08 Serial number: 2500104406021F
    Coding: 3D0F0900071100
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 2854FAFEA4A90D5C

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer
    Cannot be reached

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN1.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 801 A
    Component: Tuersteuerger. H10 0010
    Coding: 0000016
    Shop #: WSC 00150 216 80752
    VCID: 39722FBA4F0384D4

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.lbl
    Part No: 1K1 909 144 F
    Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.9 1301
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 2E580CE6864D536C

    2 Faults Found
    02546 - Steering Limit Stop
    005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    Freeze Frame:
    Mileage: 8560 km
    Temperature: 19.0°C
    Voltage: 12.40 V
    Voltage: 12.20 V

    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
    005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    Freeze Frame:


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 433
    Component: KSG H02 0040
    Coding: 018800186D288505484AC67000
    Shop #: WSC 00999 444 64523
    VCID: F9F26FBA8F83C4D4

    Part No: 1K0 951 605 A
    Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H01 1201

    Part No: 1K0 907 719
    Component: Neigungssensor 003 0003

    Part No: 8P0 951 177
    Component: Innenraumueberw.H03 0010

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 8P0-959-802-MIN1.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 802 A
    Component: Tuersteuerger. H09 0010
    Coding: 0000016
    Shop #: WSC 00150 216 80752
    VCID: 3A7030B64A058FCC

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 7D: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 D HW: 1K0 963 235 D
    Component: PTC-Element 0404
    Revision: 00700000 Serial number:
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 2C5C06EEB051217C

    No fault code found.

    End ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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    [Mar 26, 2011]
    For a start you cant just swap clusters as the keys will need to be coded (immobiliser) to it and its a dealer job.

    This is probably why the car wont run. Is there a flashing icon in the shape of a key?

    Also are you sure its the correct cluster for your car?

    Not sure about the fault codes some of them could be old logged codes.
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    Oh dear, as above, unless you coded the cluster to the car & keys, then it wont stay running as IMMO will cut it out after 2 seconds.

    Allot of your errors are due to calibration, but they wont help anyway, as it wont run until coded by audi or someone who has your SKC.
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    [Mar 26, 2011]

    I'm 100% sure they are the same as it was the same model of AUDI A3 and also a VDO cluster...
    There's no icon in the shape of a key?
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    Its a coil icon not key usually & even if its a different A3, it would work but revs & speedo will be wrong, but again stated it wont run as the immo has to be coded to the car with cluster, yours isnt so run for longer than 2-5 seconds.
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    [Mar 26, 2011]
    Is there a way that I could fix it myself?

    Does anyone know how or someone who could point me in the right direction at least to repair my car?

    I've got:
    -VAG CAN COMMANDER
    -VCDS
    -LAUNCH X431 master Diagnostic tool
    that I can use...
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    The fact you've tossed your existing cluster is a big issue as you transfer the settings of that to the new one & thats where you retrieve the skc from aswell, just get it to a dealer as they will be able to get the skc from germany, others would take skc from old unit, thus may not be able to help.
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    [Mar 26, 2011]
    I've called the chopshop and went to pick up the old cluster :D THANK GOD--->they've kept it!


    What should I do now?????
    How can I get the SKC code from the old cluster?
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    Uh plug it into your car & take new (hopefully compatible) cluster to your dealer to get coded, assuming old one lets car stay running.
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    [Mar 26, 2011]
    Commander can extract SKC codes iirc.
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    Depends on version tbh Mark, most have a V1 setup which wont do 8P's afaik, but hey try your luck, newer versions are harder to come by & genuine is thousands.
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    [Mar 27, 2011]
    So I plugged in the VagCan Commander but it can't find the com-port? Anyone know what I did wrong?
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    [Mar 27, 2011]
    Where to start - taking out the clocks and binning them would be the first mistake LOL
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    [Mar 27, 2011]
    I wanna try doing this myself, cause I heard they rather sell me a new cluster again:(
    I can't pay such bills for the moment :(
    HELP?
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    Yeps you got that right;)
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    Just take it to audi, they will charge 30 minutes to code cluster to car, £50, you dont have to buy a cluster if you dont want to, just make sure replacement cluster is the correct one.
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