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Discussion in 'A3/S3/Sportback (8P Chassis)' started by just017, Jul 18, 2010.

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    [Jul 18, 2010]
    So today I tried to fix my starter motor problem
    since my new flywheel was fitted.I knew it was either that or the battery. No my car has seemed to have short circuited somewhere or somehow as the door has locked with my laptop and key in the ignition. Can anyone point me to any other fuses I should check? I've checked the ones I can see to the right of the battery,but these don't seem like big fuses that I thought the car would have. What else can I do and where are the main fuses for the car and how else can I get inside it.the spare key doesn't seem to do anything even using the key rather than the buttons
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    If you disconnected the battery with the key inside the car, this WILL happen when the battery is re-connected. -I always leave all windows rolled down, and try to keep the key outside the car.

    The spare key blade should ALWAYS open the lock mechanically though, even with the battery disconnected.

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    [Jul 18, 2010]
    Right.so how do I unlock with my spare key.because it's not working.thanks
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    I'm not sure why it's not working, unless the internal linkage is disconnected.

    Do you have locks on both doors, or just one?

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    Is the battery disconnected? -Is the bonnet shut?

    What are the circumstances?
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    [Jul 18, 2010]
    I have a lock on just drivers door, the bonnet is open.Battery is in, tried 2 batteries. Spare key fob doesn't work.buttons or blade
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    Have you tried the boot, using the boot release on the key fob?
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    Yeah boot us locked also and key fob doesn't open it
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    [Jul 19, 2010]
    So ive spoke to Audi, and they say the immobiliser has basically de actived everything and will need to be reset. If i can get in can this be done with vag com?
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    Deactivated the manual unlocking of a door?
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    [Jul 19, 2010]
    if you're with RAC/AA etc they will do it for you
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    [Jul 19, 2010]
    Can they also reset the immobiliser etc?
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    [Jul 19, 2010]
    Hello mate
    I work for VWG/RAC Roadside assistance as technician, we can get into the car but we wont be able to reset the immobiliser, its usually done in the garage as the immobiliser codes is transmitted online to vehicle straight.

    If you have Audi roadside assistance then give them a call quoting keys locked in car. they will be happy to send a tech out to help you.

    I never heard of something as immobiliser activated causing the door lock not to work with the key manually ?!?!?

    intersted to know what is the reason for the total dead lock, Keep us posted please

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    [Jul 19, 2010]
    I think the key blade isn't working because the door lock,not because of the immobiliser. Once the car is open will the immobiliser de activate itself?
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    [Jul 19, 2010]
    To be honest you wont know til you get into the car that the immobiliser is activated. get access into the car 1st then go from there.
    if the immobiliser is activated you would see the word SAFE on the milleage display.
    Good luck
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    [Jul 20, 2010]
    Well guys, after 3 hours the RAC turned up.had no option than to inflate the door sill and put a rod in the car.managed to open the door handle from the inside and all was fine. The immobiliser wasn't on and the car started fine. Only slight problem is the metal rod the guy used has scratched the b pillar a little. Don't think he used enough tape.
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    No pain, no gain brother ! :yes:
    Glad you gotta it sorted. :o.k:
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    Glad to hear your sorted mate.

    Was it the external B pillar trim its scratched?
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    scratches are easily sorted, what about the locks ??? have you tried your main key in the door lock manually ? this needs resolving ....
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    When I open my A3 from the passenger side first - the door automatically locks after 30 or so seconds. Even if the door is still being held open. Is this a fault?

    A few weeks ago I opened the door from the passenger side to put some shopping on the seat, not realising I also put the car keys on the seat too. I hear the doors "lock" but thought nothing of it, being used to it... After I'd finished putting the stuff down, I close the door and proceed to walk around the the drivers side, then realised I'd locked the keys inside! I was bloody lucky I never locked my phone in too. Had to call the AA and they stuck a wire down the top of the window to press the alarm fob on the key which was on the seat.

    Surely this isn't right?
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    Yes.

    The microswitch inside the lock is not indicating that the door was ever opened. There's a couple of possible reasons for this, like cold-solder joints (dry-joints) but I think I recall that NHN mentioned that a good application of WD-40 into the lock mechanism might also free up a dirty/sticking microswitch assembly... you'd have to ask NHN to confirm or correct that though, since I'm not sure if I'm rememebering ot correctly.

    Either way, the switch indication can be read through VAG-COM. -It either needs to be un-stuck (if it's sticking) or removed and repaired (if it's a solder joint or the microswitch has failed).

    What happens is that there's a "clever" bit of coding written into the car, to try and keep the car secure even if you ACCIDENTALLY press a button on the remote while it's in your pocket/purse/handbag... -Basically, when you unlock the car with the remote, the car 'watches' all of its doors to see if any of them are opened. -If none of the doors are ever opened within what it considers a reasonable amount of time, it makes the assumption that you just pressed a button by accident.

    The switch which tells the car that a door is almost certainly open is the same one which turns on the interior light, and the same one which sets off the 'door open' warning in the instrument cluster DIS. -So -if you don't have a VAG-COM, while the car is idling, maybe have someone open the passenger door and seed if you get a warning... or if the interior light comes on.

    -If I'm correct in my guess, it'll show you that the door switch is faulty. -If you're lucky, WD-40 might do it for you. -Ask NHN if I'm remembering it right.

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    vw addict is spot on!!
    the micro switches stick or sometimes if your lucky require adjusting, as said, the dis should allow you to prove this along with the interior light, ie the dis will not show an open door and the interior light will not activate when said door is opened.
    nige ( nhn ) wasnt so lucky on his last car and had to replace.
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    [Jul 20, 2010]
    Thanks a lot for that! appreciate it.
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