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Car Buyers beware-flaw in HPI mileage checks

oat May 20, 2009

  1. oat

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    Yesterday I returned home from doing a deal on an S3 at an Audi main dealer. Did a quick MOT check using VOSA and it transpires the previous owner has done a Marty McFly and gone back in time with my S3.
    I would have thought an HPI check would have picked this up but it did not.

    Dealer refunded my deposit and is as shocked/gutted as I am, although they are in utter shock this hasn't been unearthed during their HPI check
    This got me thinking and after a lot of research I've discovered ANY HPI mileage checks are NOT linked to the VOSA MOT database!!:keule: Talk about a major flaw in the system!! I still can't believe this hasn't been unearthed by anyone before!!

    Be careful out there guys when buying, make sure you do a VOSA MOT check for the mileage as well as full HPI for any outstanding finance/insurance write off etc.


    http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/internet/j...ry-Request.jsp
     
  2. Essflee

    Essflee Well-Known Member

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    glad you got your money back mate, don't think it was ever in doubt, Audi would be as pissed off as you were I'd imagine...it pays to do your own homework now a days...
     
  3. S3 HODGE

    S3 HODGE Brown passenger seat.

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    Yea lol, O well at least it was that simple and they wasnt pushing you to buy it still.
    Good luck on the hunt still!
     
  4. afcjay

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    glad you sorted it and got your money back.didnt think you would have much of a problem to be honest

    my friend is looking at a S3 today,showing around 50k told him to do a vosa check as well as a HPI check.better to be safe than sorry

    how much is a vosa check by the way?
     
  5. oat

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    It's Free!:busted_cop:
     
  6. afcjay

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    have you got a number or web link?
     
  7. oat

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    Google VOSA MOT CHECK - I have a bad feeling I might end up ruining a few peoples days as clocking is more rife than you would imagine...:angrymod:
     
  8. 666markyboy

    666markyboy Well-Known Member

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  9. afcjay

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    right handy that.cheers
     
  10. S3 AJ.X

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    Guys how would you check a car that you have just seen on sale, because on the vosa site it asks for the regestration and MOT test number from VT20 MOT Test Certificate or VT30 Refusal of an MOT Test Certificate (failure notice) or Document Reference Number from the V5C Registration Certificate issued by the DVLA??

    Im just asking because my mums seen a audi a3 8p 2.0 tdi going pretty good price, done a hpi but after eading this thread yesterday its got me thinking as the car shows 36,000 on the clock which for a 2004 is pretty low.
     
  11. Khufu

    Khufu Well-Known Member

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    There is also the assumption that an MOT tester didnt mark down the wrong mileage by accident :no:
     
  12. Broken Byzan

    Broken Byzan Photographic Moderator Staff Member Moderator VCDS Map User quattro Audi A4

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    Thats so bleeding cool, Saved, didn't know this existed
     
  13. afcjay

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    call the seller and ask for the imfo you require.if they have anything to hide they will refuse
     
  14. S3 AJ.X

    S3 AJ.X Member

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    CHEERS, very good point. will do.
     
  15. Andy_S3

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    Just checked mine, all ok thankfully. However I checked my 1998 Pug 106 on the database and it shows the first MOT being done in Jan 2006! Im hoping this database has only been around for a few years and thats the reason why. However I did buy the car last year with rediculously low mileage (46k for a 10 year old car) so im starting to worry a little!
     
  16. 666markyboy

    666markyboy Well-Known Member

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    It does state on the site that records only go back to the start of the computerised MOT's i have a couple of the old style MOT certificates in my history folder that didn't show up on the VOSA site..... i think it goes back to around 2005/2006 something like that
     
  17. Andy_S3

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    Thats put my mind at ease then!
     
  18. Brumtown

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    Always worth doing the check. Comes in handy when the bodywork and engine condition doesn't match the mileage.
     
  19. Audi Dynamik

    Audi Dynamik Well-Known Member

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    hmm suspicious that sounds quite rare with Audi but i suppose it is better to check it out , i always buy brand new cars so it doesn't really matter to me :p
     
  20. gen.heinz guderian

    gen.heinz guderian Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    why not use vcds to check mileage from ecu ? I always check every car with vcds before buying.
     
  21. RYes3

    RYes3 Active Member Team Nardo Audi RS3

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    Unrelated but you can also check the insurance status of a car here

    http://www.askmid.com/

    Useful when you renew your policy with another insurer to make sure they have updated the insurance database!
     
  22. metricspaces

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    I'm looking at using this site to check a car I'm considering buying. I'm from Ireland so I'm not familiar with uk documents for car registration and MOT.

    What information do I need from the seller?

    Does this system show you the mileage for all MOTs that the car has gone through or you can only query one MOT at a time?
     

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