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Calling all Facelift owners for a small favour

Discussion in 'A3/S3/Sportback (8P Chassis)' started by PH1L, Nov 15, 2010.

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    [Nov 18, 2010]
    OK, Phil excuse my memory as you may have said already but flu is about me atm, have you gone pin to pin from each end of the wires, not just reliant on whats at the headlight end, you may find it a pointless exercise but I always create a spreadsheet of these type jobs so I can see whats changed if anything & refer back to if need be, I havnt checked pre to facelift pins but have you compared to be sure?

    Headlight level module is compatible for sure as I checked headlights in etka & they span across the facelift from 08/09 to upto current day & the levelling controller only changed for MY10 to an A on end, so for me you have correct module, possibly faulty but tbh I dont think it is as you can login to it with various options.

    What are your headlight part numbers & the 2 modules that sit in the bottom, 1 for bulbs & 1 for cornering, just covering all bases here even if you're sure.
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    Also, did you check/code for xenons in the CE as it has a variety of tick boxes aswell as the drop down for headlight type, this may make no difference at all, but its amazing how 1 setting on 1 module can be attributed to another modules coding issues.
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    yeah ive checked the colours end to end dont trust the wiring diags but ive compared the diags also between 06 to 09 and thie are the smae connection wise (internals are different but we knew that) the level module hasnt been changed yet its an 07 module so im suspecting this may be the problem, my old boy is going to get onto autologic tomorrow to see if they can write the facelift software to the current module, as soon as the ebayers come back to me ill have bought the new one anyway

    the numbers i have for the cornering modules are 7l6 941 321 b housings are the newest version of the sr/as think its bh or something now yeah ive now got 2 modules ;) i appreciate the help given so far mate youll be getting some quality street your way at crimbo ;)
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    [Nov 18, 2010]
    Interestingly it maybe unrelated but in 07 its the same module as 09 tbh, but 07 also has a reference to a software part number aswell whereas 09 has none, its possible as you speculated that the can signalling to the headlights is not being recognised due to the software level, I'd like to find out if a new version of this module with same part number would indeed work & if its got a different software version, buying a used version of someone mate may bring you the same results if same version firmware.

    At last I'm not the guinea pig, hoorahhhhh, Khufu if you're reading, we have a new member of our crew lmfao.
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    yeah well when i go though etka as if to file the order on the module that is in my car it appears that it has been obsoleted by the 09 version, which suggests to me it may be the same internally hopefully autologic can flash the unit and rid me of the final problem

    haha someone has to be a guinea pig nige, as you know its a tough job, im not worried about buying the new unit its more for the time factor of things failing that someone will be getting the levelling controller they need for the adaptives also ;) ive got a fair few other mods planned for the car when cashflow allows also nate will vouch for that
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    [Nov 18, 2010]
    This is what my car has, the module supersedes to the 4L0 version with no letter on end & then stops.

    55 - Dynamic headlight range control
    4F0910357F
    AFS 1 H01
    Coding 20
    Dealer number 12345
    4F0907357F
    000
    0020

    8E0941329A
    AFS-Modul links H03
    Dealer number 00000
    8E0941329A
    ---
    0020

    8E0941329A
    AFS-Modul rechtsH03
    Dealer number 00000
    8E0941329A
    ---
    0020
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    frim what i gather autologic are working on updating the software on my 55 away in to find out how theyve been getting on
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    oh and ive not gotten round to some pms yet but ill try and powere though them tomorrow if for those like nige waiting on me
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    just a wee update the unit cant be updated though it is the same, im unsure if the problem is due to either rom or lack of access to a new one with firmware, so bought a new style unit and its on the way!
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    got my new range controller and still no joy, did you also change your ce dean and did you fit brand new uncoded lights?
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    What letter CE have you got? Coding works inconjunction with the controller and CE. If one is wrong or the wiring... My lights were from a scrapy. Also post or PM the coding your trying and will look it up for you.
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    [Nov 26, 2010]
    Phil, fancy letting me login to your laptop remotely via logmein to have a looksy at your coding mate, would certainly give me more of an idea of modules etc & its perfectly safe trust me.
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    i know it would be safe mate, ive gotten to the bottom of it pretty much its all in byte 0 of the ce unit i need to go from value f5 to f7 unforunately my ce wont let me apply this, im assuming that this is due to age as its a letter F ce. ive got the lights all coded and running (as a cab 028) cornering is functioning but as a result of the incorrect coding in the ce i have a wee bulb error on the dis, so now im assuming i also need a newer ce than the letter f module that i have
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    Aha I knew it, thats why I asked earlier on which module it was, F was prefacelift upto 07 mate which may explain the issue, although it supported byte 21 for bixenon, I dont think it supported the led bixenon lights, this came in with K afaik & thats now superseded to a P.

    Tell me this, when you goto byte 21, does it show Bi-Xenon Front Light with LED Daytime Running Lights?

    Now it may still show the led light setting due to incorrect label file maybe, but certainly dont believe F ever supported your new lights mate.
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    yeah it will let me code it mate but its the label file and i belive im maxing the module when i apply it, oh well time to rake for a module, unless youve got one?
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    I hope you dont need the newer style CE unit that came in 2010 as they are the DRL version. Its a bit different & not a simple fit. I too need a new CE unit if i decide to go for bi-xenon over standard xenon but I can get away with a K rev of the original style.
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    k supports the prefacelift adaptive bixenons all the way till the late 08 facelift, seems i may have one for sale too ;) any chance of the full part number nige my etka is being gay and its cold outside!
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    just been looking and the R8 shares somethings that are compatible with the A3/TT & CE modules 8P0 907 279 P & 8P0 907 279 L both are used in the R8 & as the R8 doesnt come without Bixenons with LEDs so hopefully you can get a module of the older design than the newer one thats completely different.
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    [Nov 29, 2010]
    You need the K or the P which both support pre bixenons with drl's & facelift with led, you dont need the new CE on 2010 cars onwards as the A3 Cab was out in 08 & the new CE wasnt out until this year on 8P.

    Can you show me the error you're getting & coding you're trying, screen dump maybe.
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    the code is 1314 mate, dont have acess to vagcom atm the diss error is a range control malfunction
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    Ah you mean in Fault Codes it shows 01314 code in the CE module, can you be more specific please as in the whole code.

    Yeah levelling will have error cause not coded properly or the comms isnt happening.

    You didnt mention the leveling error before did you, you sly fecker lmfao, if we're to get to bottom of these things then full picture needed chap, like all the module versions, all full error codes etc, then we can work through each one that will probably lead us to the ce maybe being the wrong revision.

    Hopefully my post isnt coming across as sucking eggs to you mate as its not intended to be.
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    apologies the error is in the 55 unit and it wasnt mentioned before as it has happened since ive gotten the corenering to work and the new levelling unit in :) ill try and get a dump of my full setup tonight if i can make it to my dads garage to get my vagcom ;) i left it there the other night, i dont like his autologic unit
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    mmm, i've just been looking at wiring for module 55 myself. It think the -1 degree was slowing my brain but my connections have upset my CE module LOL.
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    elabourate?
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    was just trying get the car to recognise the module, kinda part 1 of wiring it in. If i enable it in the gateway module it doesnt find it & when its plugged in it gives a fault on the CE module, cant remember what it said now though. My problem wont be the same as yours, i've prob just tapped into wrong wires for canbus etc. All I've done is wire in can high & low, earth connection, wired to wire that goes from CE to lights & wired in a fuse holder to SC7 for the 12V

    Will sort tomorrow :)
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    if i get time tomorrow ill take a look at the diags for you
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    hey, thanks but its fine, ive all the wiring diagrams. I just tried to keep things together & used wires at CE for can but wiring says they join the steering module can wires. lol
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    Hi,

    Sorry to steal your thread but i have a similar problem to the one you had...
    I can't code my 55, as the code in it is 0000255... The VCDS keeps telling me Coding rejected - error 78: unknown...
    Did you manage to solve this? Can you guys help?

    Best regards.
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    [Jan 14, 2011]
    Did you perform security access before attempting coding?

    Note: Perform Security Access before Coding and Basic Setting (Headlight Adjustment) after Coding
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    Sadly yes... :( 02000 on sec code access but it keeps telling me error unknown...
    The coding before was for 8p cabrio, strange is when i put in the new ballast the code is now 0000255... Is this some code saying it needs to be recoded?
    Damn i'm after this S*it for almost 2 years and still haven't got this to work... Now the problem is coding...
    I wonder what will be the next issue... ERRRRRRR
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    Best to keep your own thread updated with this info huh or gets messy over several.
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    Ok sorry...

    Can you help on mine? I only posted here because i saw P5SND had the same issue...
    Would thank a lot if you people could help this pour devil put the headlights working once and for all...

    Regards.
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    i coded mine as a convertible for just now but a new ce unit is what i require to get rid of bulb and leveller errors
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    Yeah, but the thing is i can't recode my 55 as it keeps telling coding rejected error 78 unknown...
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    which 55 unit do you have?
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    [Jan 18, 2011]
    From an A3 cabrio... The PN are the same
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    is it from a facelift as the software inside them is different dispite the p/n being the same
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    Yes.

    It's from a cabrio 8P. Facelift.
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