TheFiftheElement
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Earlier than expected, but after lasting a little more than 12 months (one year review here http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/s3-sportback-s-tronic-one-year-review.247653/) I've sold on my 2014 S3 Sportback S-tronic.
I had an S4 on order but after having a re-think, cancelled it and began my search for a new car a few weeks back. Above all, what the S3 has shown me, is that no matter how quick, accomplished, well made or stylish a car can be, I need my car to be fun to drive and sound nice and the S3, for me, is severely lacking in both those areas.
I want a car on the driveway that makes me want to jump in it, and take it for a hoon when I have an hour to spare. One that makes me want to clean it, and one that makes me look back at it when it's parked up and put a smile on my face that it's mine. If that's still happening after 6 months of ownership (post new car syndrome) then I think we might be on to a winner
My wife has a 2012 Q5, so I don't really need my car to be all that practical. I do about 3,000 a year around town, the occasional weekend away with the missus, and an odd potter around at the weekend if we have some spare time and inclination. I'm a serial car changer (just can't seem to stick to a car) and for once, would like to keep one for more than a year
I've had a lot of cars, tuned saloon's, 4x4's, 2 seaters, hot hatches and there's only a couple I regret selling. My Forester STi (Litchfield tuned to about 350/350) and my 2008 Porsche RS60 Spyder. With that in mind I started to look around for another Boxster S. Budget @ 30K, and I wanted a DFI engined model, so that I didn't not have to worry about IMS or bore score issues. PDK would be preferable. I'm not really an options person but wanted heated seats, and ideally BOSE as I know the standard CD system in the Boxster is properly pathetic.
Lo and behold, there's 2 at my local dealer, one manual (2010, heated seats, design pack, 19's), one PDK (2011, heated seats, BOSE, 18's). Arranged a test drive of both and I won't bore you with the details but I've ended up with this ..
It's a 2011, PDK Boxster S in Guards Red. It's only done 11K miles and is immaculate. I didn't like the 18's so managed to persuade the dealer to swap them for the 19's on the 2010 manual model. Wheels are like this .. and the bonus was the rubber was better on them too ..
It had 11 months warranty left, they've put 2 on top (so effectively 3 years warranty), full years tax/MOT/tank of fuel, and it's been treated to a SwissVax.
There's a lot of stuff it doesn't have, Xenon's, navigation, any form of plugging my phone in for calls or tunes, auto hill hold, auto lights, daytime running lights, sport mode (DSG) on the gearbox, any form of mode to change the steering weight or throttle response, rear seats
What it does have though is a fantastic revvy, awesome sounding 3.4 flat 6, a (surprise to me) more mechanical feeling, and quicker responding (certainly on downshifts) PDK box and the ability to have miles of open sky above my head
In the test drive there was only one moment where I felt the S3 would have been a better car to have been in. I needed a quick overtake, and the S3 would have romped past in 6th without a second thought. In 7th at 50 mph the Porsche doesn't have grunt the S3 has in 6th. By the time I'd dropped 3 gears and flown past, the S3 would have been another 100 metres down the road.
For me though speed is not the answer, I could have tuned the S3 to do 0-100 in about 8 seconds, however it would have sounded dull getting there, and I'd have had to have panned on the brakes to pogo and roll around the next bend, or been done speeding soon enough to try and make the car fun.
I do not mean any disrespect, but one drive in the girly Boxster shows you that the S3 is based on a basic hatch, with a powerful engine (albeit one with lag and a poor throttle response) shoved in. There is absolutely no comparison to a 2 seater roadster in terms of steering feel, handling, response, noise and drama. I guess they are not really cars you would generally compare.
If you are out there, and do not need 4 seats, and are thinking about an S3, go test drive a Boxster or Cayman. Apart from brute speed, and tech, there's really no comparison as a driving machine.
I have my flame retardant suit at the ready, and am quite aware of the image of my new car (and I've had 2 mini's and a TT so am used to the girls car comment.
Is the S3 a good car, yes indeed it is, and for many it's a lovely car to own. Quick, stylish, reasonably cheap to run and tune. It just didn't put a smile on my face no matter how quick, grippy and stylish it is.
I had an S4 on order but after having a re-think, cancelled it and began my search for a new car a few weeks back. Above all, what the S3 has shown me, is that no matter how quick, accomplished, well made or stylish a car can be, I need my car to be fun to drive and sound nice and the S3, for me, is severely lacking in both those areas.
I want a car on the driveway that makes me want to jump in it, and take it for a hoon when I have an hour to spare. One that makes me want to clean it, and one that makes me look back at it when it's parked up and put a smile on my face that it's mine. If that's still happening after 6 months of ownership (post new car syndrome) then I think we might be on to a winner
My wife has a 2012 Q5, so I don't really need my car to be all that practical. I do about 3,000 a year around town, the occasional weekend away with the missus, and an odd potter around at the weekend if we have some spare time and inclination. I'm a serial car changer (just can't seem to stick to a car) and for once, would like to keep one for more than a year
I've had a lot of cars, tuned saloon's, 4x4's, 2 seaters, hot hatches and there's only a couple I regret selling. My Forester STi (Litchfield tuned to about 350/350) and my 2008 Porsche RS60 Spyder. With that in mind I started to look around for another Boxster S. Budget @ 30K, and I wanted a DFI engined model, so that I didn't not have to worry about IMS or bore score issues. PDK would be preferable. I'm not really an options person but wanted heated seats, and ideally BOSE as I know the standard CD system in the Boxster is properly pathetic.
Lo and behold, there's 2 at my local dealer, one manual (2010, heated seats, design pack, 19's), one PDK (2011, heated seats, BOSE, 18's). Arranged a test drive of both and I won't bore you with the details but I've ended up with this ..
It's a 2011, PDK Boxster S in Guards Red. It's only done 11K miles and is immaculate. I didn't like the 18's so managed to persuade the dealer to swap them for the 19's on the 2010 manual model. Wheels are like this .. and the bonus was the rubber was better on them too ..
It had 11 months warranty left, they've put 2 on top (so effectively 3 years warranty), full years tax/MOT/tank of fuel, and it's been treated to a SwissVax.
There's a lot of stuff it doesn't have, Xenon's, navigation, any form of plugging my phone in for calls or tunes, auto hill hold, auto lights, daytime running lights, sport mode (DSG) on the gearbox, any form of mode to change the steering weight or throttle response, rear seats
What it does have though is a fantastic revvy, awesome sounding 3.4 flat 6, a (surprise to me) more mechanical feeling, and quicker responding (certainly on downshifts) PDK box and the ability to have miles of open sky above my head
In the test drive there was only one moment where I felt the S3 would have been a better car to have been in. I needed a quick overtake, and the S3 would have romped past in 6th without a second thought. In 7th at 50 mph the Porsche doesn't have grunt the S3 has in 6th. By the time I'd dropped 3 gears and flown past, the S3 would have been another 100 metres down the road.
For me though speed is not the answer, I could have tuned the S3 to do 0-100 in about 8 seconds, however it would have sounded dull getting there, and I'd have had to have panned on the brakes to pogo and roll around the next bend, or been done speeding soon enough to try and make the car fun.
I do not mean any disrespect, but one drive in the girly Boxster shows you that the S3 is based on a basic hatch, with a powerful engine (albeit one with lag and a poor throttle response) shoved in. There is absolutely no comparison to a 2 seater roadster in terms of steering feel, handling, response, noise and drama. I guess they are not really cars you would generally compare.
If you are out there, and do not need 4 seats, and are thinking about an S3, go test drive a Boxster or Cayman. Apart from brute speed, and tech, there's really no comparison as a driving machine.
I have my flame retardant suit at the ready, and am quite aware of the image of my new car (and I've had 2 mini's and a TT so am used to the girls car comment.
Is the S3 a good car, yes indeed it is, and for many it's a lovely car to own. Quick, stylish, reasonably cheap to run and tune. It just didn't put a smile on my face no matter how quick, grippy and stylish it is.