Finally gonna get my crapy avons off the car (Well front two anyhow!) Gonna get 2 Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3's fitted and balanced for £221 inclusive! Now I think thats a bargain! Looking forward to seeng what all the fuss is about /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif These Avons probably have about 2-3mm left and have started to go out of shape slightly (as most avons do so I am told!) so it feels like I have a wheel bearing gone! Cant wait to get them off! Rich.