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Big brakes and spacesaver?

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by jojo, Aug 22, 2006.

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    jojo S3 Drift King! Staff Member Moderator

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    [Aug 22, 2006]
    Just thought I'd let you guys who are running Brembo's or Porsche brake kits on your S3/A3s. that the spacesave won't fit over the front calipers, as I found out with a puncture on my front right wheel :think:
    So the procedure is to jack up and change one of the rear wheels for the spacesaver, and change the rear wheel for the front one to be mobile again, which takes ages! :haudrauf:
    You will need AA if you are fortunate enough to have big brakes and wider wheels at the back lol.
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    You shouldn't put a space saver on the front anyway as they shouldn't be used on a driven axle. Probably a combination of the lack of grip and the different rolling circumference which may cause problems with the differential??

    Just got to make sure you always puncture a rear wheel!
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    Ive never heard that before.

    If your cars 4 wheel drive you have to be able to put spacesaver on the driven axle as they are all driven.
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    Yep Steve your correct, I think jcs356 has been on the funny pills again... the space saver *should* also have the same rolling radius as the main wheels (or as close as possible given the different tyres) or that won't be good for the car.
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    [Aug 22, 2006]
    Bugger me, why have I never considered that before? I have big-ish brakes on the rears, better go check this weekend, or join the AA. Cheers Jojo
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    [Aug 22, 2006]
    Well the A3 used a full size spare.. 16"... But even that is useless when using big front and rear brakes! I sold mine on ebay, and saced 20kg!! :) Now, who wants some A3 front seats...lol

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    Oops, just checked the manual of both the S3 and the Ibiza and it says nothing about keeping the space saver off the powered axle. Unless you are fitting snow chains. Which of course is a regular occurrence in this country.

    I'll keep quiet next time. :Flush:
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    [Aug 22, 2006]
    Front seats, back seats, dashboard. All un-necessary...

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    will a full size not fit in the spare wheel well? i got a replica 18" and put it in my a6 but that is quite a bit bigger than a s3.. very useful though it is!
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    [Aug 23, 2006]
    always put the space saver on the rear.

    A. Doesnt have to steer.
    B. Doesnt have to do much braking.

    I carry a standard set of bolts to fit it to the rear, but have also used it with spacers on the rear.


    Largely irrelevant now as i have a cheap (free) full size spare with non directional PS2 tyre on it in the garage. I can always get it delivered out..

    I know some of the TTers considered/talked about carrying one big spacer and bolts, that would allow space saver to clear porsche brakes, but its not something ive needed to bother with, and ive had a few punctures.
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    [Aug 23, 2006]

    It's actually the width of the calipers preventing the wheel from going on, as you have retained your standard calipers on the rear Chris, I think you might be fine... I should have had the opportunity to test the rears, as I have an ECS stage1 rear kit yet to be fitted, I will test it before I put the 19s back on!

    btw, I wouldn't think theres any problem with fitting a spacesaver, provided it fits, to any axle, as it's only good for 80km's/50mph!... and you end up doing 30mph anyways, so all the clios/saxos/corsas think they've just beat you in a dragrace, when they line up against you on the side with 2 perfect wheels lol. :sadlike:
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    i've got an lpg tank in the spare wheel well and a full ice install. Best defence from walking home is green flag membership :)
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    [Aug 23, 2006]
    If its the width of the calipers, why not just carry a wide spacer :)
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    I've got the same brakes on the rears. ECS Stage 1R. Let us know if there's any fitment issues, if so it looks like I might as well be 20kg's lighter too.
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    [Aug 23, 2006]
    just pay extra and get runflats fitted next time and bin the spare...
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    Here we ago again with me ready to put my foot in my mouth :Flush: , but I'd read you weren't supposed to put runflats on a car without automatic tyre pressure monitoring because of the risk of you getting a puncture, not being aware of it, then driving until the runflat destroys itself...
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    ive also heard run flats are **** for handling.
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    [Aug 24, 2006]
    yes all the mass is out where the tyre is
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    get an aftermarket tyre monitor as well then....

    I have no idea. I guess it depends on the car they're fitted to. I have no issues with handling when driving a Cooper S with RFT's...
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