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Discussion in 'Detailing' started by S3 Nattie, Sep 10, 2009.

  1. S3 Nattie
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    Hi guys. Been getting into detailing lately and been thinking what would be the best products to use on a Nogaro S3.

    I been using mainly AUTOGLYM products. I been using their Car Shampoo and Super Reisn Polish for the outside and odd Tar and Glue Remover, havent used a wax yet. For the inside I been using Vinyl and Rubber Care and Leather Cream, all AG products. I dont have a machine polisher as of yet so products that can be used by hand is what im after.

    What products would you recommend for my colour, polish, wax, clay kits and what do you use for your interiors. Also whats the best way to apply wax and polish by hand.

    Any recommendation would be great Nathan
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    try a company call autobritiredirect a guy called mark ,he is really helpful .tell him what ya looking to do and he will put you into the correct product , and all his products are quality and very reasonably priced too. (tel no : 07951 576174) or try the website tell him les wilson reccommended you, im sure you wont be disappointed.

    lsw s3 :s3addict:
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    WX51TXR Polished Bliss

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    Wash (ideally every week)

    Advanced Car Wash Kit - http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/advanced-car-wash-kit-wash.html (choosing the Blackfire shampoo)

    Decontaminate (once or twice a year, spring and autumn are the best times)

    Step 1 - Autosmart Tardis & Accessories (to remove tar spots, tree sap, etc) - http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/autosmart-tardis-clean.html

    Step 2 - Meguiars Quik Clay Kit (to remove industrial fallout, soot, etc) - http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/meguiars-quik-clay-kit-clean.html

    Polish (after claying, thus done once or twice a year)

    To correct swirl marks and other light to moderate defects (fine scratches and etching) on your car, we recommend a two stage process starting with Menzerna 203S in conjunction with Lake Country German CCS Light Cut Pads. Working small areas at a time using moderate pressure should enable you to correct a reasonable amount of the defects present in just 1-2 attempts per panel. Any remaining defects should then be partially hidden and the overall finish refined with Blackfire Gloss Enhancing Polish in conjunction with Lake Country German CCS Polishing Pads. Working small areas at a time using light pressure should enable you to partially hide any remaining defects and maximise the gloss in just a single attempt per panel. You should be aware from the outset that although this method will yield very good results, it will require a reasonable amount of elbow grease!

    Menzerna 203S - http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/menzerna-203s-polish.html
    Blackfire Gloss Enhancing Polish - http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/blackfire-gloss-enhancing-polish-polish.html
    Lake Country German CCS Pads - http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/lake-country-german-ccs-pads-polish.html
    Poorboys Super Thick & Plush Towels - http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/poorboys-super-thick-and-plush-towel-polish.html

    Protect (apply a fresh coat at least every 3 months)

    Blackfire Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection - http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acat...mond-all-finish-paint-protection-protect.html
    Blackfire Ultimate LSP Applicator Pad - http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/blackfire-ultimate-lsp-applicator-pad-protect.html
    Luxury Deep Pile Buffing Towel - http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/deep-pile-luxury-buffing-towel-protect.html

    Leather (treat as and when required)

    Raceglaze Leather Care Kit - http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/raceglaze-leather-care-kit-kits.html

    Here are some pictures showing the finish the above products/routine gives to give you some idea in advance...

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    Thanks both for the info. I was after products to use by hand though as I have never used a machine polisher before.
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    WX51TXR Polished Bliss

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    The above process I suggested is a hand process - no machine required (if a machine was required I'd modify the routine slightly)... :icon_thumright:
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    aw right ok, my bad. Would you recommend AG Super Resin. Also can I apply the wax on top of the polish straight away and buff off, or should I apply it and leave it for some time.

    Thanks
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    Hi, I have finally finished the product I had an going to order most of the above you recommended me next pay day, just wondering do forum members get and discounts.

    I am in to minds whether to buy a dual polisher first so as you have said the list would be slightly different, what products would be different so I know im ordering the right stuff if I do get a dual polisher first.

    Thanks Nathan

    Edit; maybe a silly question but what is the difference between dual and rotary polishers
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    Hey nathan,
    Dual action polishers send the pads in different directions as well as spinning, they are great for starters. They give you a finish that simply isn't possible by hand in a realistic timescale. Great for abrasive polishes like the menzerna range and also all in ones like SRP. You will not look back once you've bought one!

    Rotary's just spin, they do a similar job to a DA but much quicker. This means you can go too far very quickly if not careful and cause alot of damage, but only if you don't concentrate. I know a few people that went straight in onto a rotary with no probs. Best to practice on scrap panels first with them.

    A guide to DA http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/images/misc/dapolishing.pdf

    Autoglym SRP is a decent All-in-one (AIO) by hand it is good, by da its great on my silver audi, but I'd say for your colour something like poorboys black hole would be better. Rich gave you alot of info up there, fantastic advice, but the blackfire range is too pricey for me. If money is no object, go for that, it is very highly rated.

    AG SRP will give you a decent surface for a wax to bond to, buff off first, then get the wax on, nice and thin, so you can barely see it.

    Best to have a go, you'll find what you like the look of after trying a few things.

    HTH

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    Thanks for the above info. I think I will go for a dual polisher then and see how I get on with that. After doing my mums faded red paint I cannot be bothered doing things by hand anymore lol.

    I have always used SRP and I think it is really good, worked amazing on my mums red faded car yesterday. When I use it on my car it does bring out the metallic flakes really well, but doesnt really look very wet/glossy for some reason on my car. I think the reason is that I have been using the Meg wax (cannot remember the name but smell of bananas lol) and it actually took the polish off my mother car yesterday and I think when using it on my car it take away the shine a bit I think, wont be using it anymore.

    Im going to try the Menzerna and Blackfire polish Rich advised with the applicators (If doing it by hand, if not see what different products would be best suited for my colour). I think the Blackfire wax is a bit pricey for me so any recommendations to use after menzerna and blackfire polish would be great. Would it be pointless to use Menz, SRP then Blackfire.

    My wash routine goes as so;

    Rinse car with jet wash
    Clean using 2 bucket method
    Rinse
    Dry (clay every 4-5 moths)
    Polish
    Wax
    Ultimate detailer (Meg ultimate)

    Nathan
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    To be honest mate, if your going with blackfire polish, the blackfire protect will go over it perfectly! Different products sit over each other differently if that makes sense, hence your megs wax not going over SRP well. Everyone has a different product preference. I've gone for menzerna polish by DA, then Carlack 68 Nano system care & SRP on the same pad applied by machine, then finish Kare 1000p Hi temp sealant (highly versitile,seals wheels and paint). This routine gives alot of protection and a glossy finish. Not a great amount of depth but that's not what I want on my silver car. These are the results
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    Going to top it with Zaino Z8 soon as it's my fathers day present.
    There are 100's of products out there mate. One thing I will say, the secret is in the preparation, clay, de-tar then all the effort you can muster in the polishing stage will give you the results.
    Enjoy
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    Ye I do agree a good prep is a must for a good finish, applies to nearly anything. Your paint does look very good in the pic.

    I will go with the blackfire and menz polishes and have a little look for what wax/proection is best to still on top.

    Thanks for your info.

    Nathan
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    hi nattie

    did ya make contact with mark @ autobrite...?? , ive always bought my products from mark ,he's beeen a great source if unsure of products & there capabilities.
    he will always point u in the right direction ,his snow foam is superb!!!,thats one of my best discoveries.....
    good luck with ya endevour to get into the detailing ,ya will spend a fortune.

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    No I havent but I may give him a call and see what he advises. Been thinking about getting a snow foam.

    Ye detailing is a expensive when you start buying the proper gear.

    Nathan
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    If you want to incorporate a dual action polisher into your routine, I'd simply change the polish stage to the following...

    Polish (after claying, thus done once or twice a year)

    To correct swirl marks and other light to moderate defects (fine scratches and etching) on your car, we recommend conducting a two stage process starting with Menzerna RD3.02 in conjunction with Menzerna Polishing Pads (135 mm pads on a 125 mm backing plate for larger flatter areas, and 80 mm spot pads on a 75 mm backing plate for smaller more awkward areas). Working at around 4000-5000 orbits per minute (speed 4-5 on most dual action machine polishers) using light to moderate pressure should enable you to correct around 95% of the defects present in just 1-2 attempts per panel. To get an even higher level of correction, or to tackle any remaining deeper defects, you could switch to using Menzerna Compounding Pads (135 mm pads on a 125 mm backing plate for larger flatter areas, and 80 mm spot pads on a 75 mm backing plate for smaller more awkward areas). These offer even more cutting power, but are more awkward to use, as they are very firm and unyielding. With the correction stage done, we recommend following up with Menzerna 85RE in conjunction with Menzerna mm Finishing Pads (135 mm pads on a 125 mm backing plate for larger flatter areas, and 80 mm spot pads on a 75 mm backing plate for smaller more awkward areas). Working at around 4000-5000 orbits per minute (speed 4-5 on most dual action machine polishers) using light pressure should enable you to produce an ultra-sharp high gloss finish, which you should then protect using either a good quality sealant or wax.

    PB DAS-6 Hard Paint Polishing Kit - http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/pb-das6-hard-paint-polishing-kit-cat1.html

    The Blackfire wax is on the pricey side, but the sealant I linked originally is half the price and looks amazing on mid tone blue finishes, as the images posted above show.

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