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Best Engine Cabriolet Choice? & Tuning Questions

Discussion in 'A4/A4 cabriolet/S4 forum(B6 chassis)' started by jamespheely, Dec 28, 2013.

  1. morrisonbrink
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    [Jan 7, 2014]
    Really? I was under the impression that a modern diesel engine is a far more complex beast than a petrol precisely because it has to work harder to pass emissions, etc being inherently "dirtier" than a petrol engine? I am no expert though, maybe someone more knowledgable than me could comment?
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    [Jan 10, 2014]
    I agree, my 3.0 Quattro Tip is great. Sounds good, decent power delivery, very well specced, and quattro drive....I also get about 30-34mpg on my runs which is pretty good...
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    [Jan 10, 2014]
    Passing emissions!? Harder on a diesel!? :huh: They don't even need a cat.
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    [Jan 11, 2014]
    I called 6 MDs in all. My local (Birmingham Audi...in Shirley, Solihull) told me that the discount for older cars was up to 2.0 engines only and they wanted £950 for the cambelt work alone (I'm not MD bashing, just saying).
    In the end, mainly because of all the good reviews online, I took it over to Midland VW for the Cambelt and major service and can honestly say this is the best experience I have ever had with a garage. The work, price, courtesy car, email contact, my options for a couple of issues they found and ongoing advice for a niggle I had (from a Jody there) were all excellent. Well worth the drive imo.

    One more note for the OP, unless you are garaging yours consider a half cover from somewhere like Hamilton Classics - keeps the rain out but leaves the paintwork alone. I got mine too late and I literally had an inch of water in my passenger foot well drowning the central locking ECU thing which had come through the pollen filter housing (I think). No problems since though.
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    [Jan 11, 2014]
    True, but it is the only thing they don't need. Particulate pollution on diesels mean you need the dreaded DPF on newer cars and will soon be even worse with the new euro 6 standards coming in ( admittedly not that relevant to B6 owners!). From what I have read the greater complexity of a diesel engine is reflected in the higher initial purchase price and higher service costs no?
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    [Jan 11, 2014]
    The difference in price is not in the complexity but the ability to save you money if you do over 15k per annum !
    Newer CR engines are also complex, requiring more money spent on hardware to meet the emissions but the new tfsi engines are really taking the mick, 8x injectors to pass emissions- great potential from a tuning point of view...
    Point is if your're thinking to buy a diesel so you drive it in town doing 5k a year then you're wasting your time and money, it's cheaper to buy petrol. In mainland Eu, the price per L of carburant, diesel fuel is cheaper to buy, however in uk politicians found a way to tax everyone's equal by raising the price of diesel. Ever wondered why there are no petrol running trucks/lorries on uk roads ?
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    [Jan 13, 2014]
    This has been useful guys I won't be looking to buy until the end of February but I'm leaning towards the 1.8t - it has good tuning potential and considering I only do a 26 mile round trip with 50% country roads and 50% town driving I won't really feel the benefit of the diesel assuming the consumption on the 1.8 isn't absolutely terrible
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    [Feb 2, 2014]
    Bring on the sunshine !
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    [Feb 3, 2014]
    I've just bought a Jan 05 (54) 1.8T cabriolet (heated seats & bose sound system). Prior to this car, I had a BMW 325 Ci Sport convertible on a 02 plate. Performance wise, the BMW wins. Despite it being a 2.5 litre with the added weight of a convertible, it still felt very lively and the noise the 6 pot made was to die for. Comfort wise, the A4 wins. The A4 is a better place to be. My original plan was to buy the 6 pot as it was cheaper to insure than the 1.8T (I'm 22), anyone who has owned a 6pot before will know how smooth and what a lovely sound it makes and also, I wouldn't have to deal with 'boost' issues as many turbo cars have. e.g. boost leaks, split pipes, being underpowered etc.

    So why didn't I buy the 6 pot?

    I've done a little research, as well as consulting with a few VW specialists around here. The 6 pots in the A4 range are not 'that'
    reliable as others. They suffer from cylinder head cracks and more commonly, headgasket failures. If you also look on the Autrotrader, eBay and gumtree, you will also see the V6 cabs are waay cheaper than the 1.8T models which for me is a big downside as I usually get bored of my car within 6months, so I don't really want to see a big depreciation.

    I live in Leicestershire and I travelled to Southampton for my A4. I drove back that day sitting on the motorway at 70 with the heated seats on. I really haven't had a journey that comfort in such a long time. The seats, the feel from the steering and just sitting in the car, overall it was the best thing. Infact, I did almost 500 miles that day as I also volunteered to drop my little brother off to uni in Bolton. It is a great motorway cruiser with no steering vibrations or any irritating noises.

    City driving is great also. The turbo spool sounds nice, the feel from the gear changes feel effortless. By any means, it is no gran tourer, however it handles like my Golf GTi MK4. When you're driving the car, you feel relaxed and because I have the sport version, the seats are very comfortable and hug you in place. What ever you do, make sure you buy a sport version as the seats in the SE are flat and may cause back pain (in my opinion).

    I bought mine with 5 months of warranty remaining from 'VGS automobile'. I have the 5 star cover which is great but I hope I never need to use it!

    Overall, I would give it a 10.


    Here's a little list of things to check for which I made before I went to view mine

    1)Roof storage box (many have broken ones)
    2)Glovebox hinge (mine has been repaired by previous owner)
    3)Hood operation
    4)Rear window (check stitching around the rear window to hood)
    5)Rear window demister (check to see it works properly and not half window)
    6)1.8T only ( remove oil cap and check if you can see any sludge)
    7)Check if radio works (antenna wiring usually breaks)
    8)Check for any oil leaks (near alternator area if greasy, rear if you can (half moon gasket)
    9)Thermostat (should warm up within 5miles of continous driving or 10 mins. Temp should not drop down when moving)
    10)Quattro only (check traction light illuminates by pressing the ESP button. Should not hear a grinding noise from rear at slow manoeuvre)
    11)Check in fuse box area for red emergency key as it used for closing and resetting roof

    Lastly, for my own piece of mind, I went into TPS the next day and changed the oil. If the particular vehicle you are looking at has been on a long life service, I'd inspect the oil pickup and either clean or replace. I'm using the PLATINUM 5w40 for TPS and will be changing it either every 3k or 5k. This part is only important if you buy a 1.8T variant.

    Kind regards
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    [Feb 3, 2014]
    Also one more thing I should have mentioned. Avoid the AUTO if you can. My dad had a A4 Cab last year which is why I wanted one. He had the auto which I remember him having a problem with the ECU in the gearbox itself. Mine is a manual version, so I guess its better as I wouldn't be having any CVT problems. If you do buy the AUTO CVT, make sure you change the gearbox oil right away as AUDI say its lifetime but tbh, I don't trust anything they say!
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    [Feb 3, 2014]
    MILF. I'm a bit worried about your reliability comment as I deliberately bought a 2wd manual 3.0v6 sport expecting it to live forever!

    Great round up from you for would-be buyers.
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    [Feb 3, 2014]
    I would have loved a nice V6 but my friend google, put me off. I guess if you don't do many miles, you won't get many problems or if the HG has been done in the past, I think you should be okay:thumbsup:

    Thanks Mark
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    [Feb 3, 2014]
    Mark, thanks for your response. Help me out. The HG? It's only done 35k, has FSH, new cambelt and it's only for the weekend (5k a year).
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    [Feb 3, 2014]
    LOL! My name is Abdul but erm I was guessing your name is Mark by your username. I've just done a quick google search

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...firefox-a&gws_rd=cr&ei=m_vvUqnJNIrg7QaWuIHoCw

    The above link should help. Theres a few videos on youtube. I'm not sure but I'm guessing it affects years from 2002-2004? I'm not sure but If you have a google read, it will give you more indepth information regarding the HG (head gasket) issue. If I was you pal, I'd buy a warranty for it just to be on the safe side.
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    [Feb 3, 2014]
    Sounds like some have had some recent good purchases

    Keeping an eye out for a s4 cab
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    [Feb 3, 2014]
    Cheers Abdul...I'll have a good read.
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