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backdraft turbo kit on your tt s3 a3?

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    Hello all
    I recently had a turbo conversion done to my s3.
    Unfortunately the car has now blown up in just over a year of use.
    What makes it even more confusing is that when it was sent to an independant mechanic they strangely noticed that the pistons had been dented by the exhaust valves, however the exhaust valves were in absolutley perfect condition?
    Has anyone else had any strange problems with their car. Please reply to this add if anything good or bad has happened with your car and your experiences with the garage.

    some of you guys are clearly on the back foot about this add, i never meant you to get so defensive. my profile pic will now show two pics of my engine when it was taken apart, can anyone ANYONE please tell me HOW the pistons are scarred but the valves are perfect, this is what it looked like when we opened up the engine up, (except we cleaned some of the carbon off the piston so you can see the scarring better)! any ideas people?
    sorry you'll have to go ont the TT forum and see my post user: omgmys3 title: backwoft cont
    anyone please shed some light here, i am not looking for an answer why my car blew up but how the pistons are scarred and valves are perfect???? i bought the car from new btw
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    theres a chappy called glen whos also got the backdraft kit wait till he comes on mate ithinks.
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    You might want to try a search mate - I'm not 100% sure but I recall there was a thread about Backdraft a while ago which might be of use to you.

    Sorry to hear about the car - I'm presuming the engine's totally beyond repair from what you'r saying?
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    What a nightmare. Strange about the pistons. Wonder what could have happened there??

    Hope you get this sorted. Keep us posted on the outcome.

    G
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    interesting stuff....unfortunate though, sorry fella

    im now interested if anyone has a car thats been given the Backdraft once over and actually works as it should?...never seem to hear much about other firms offering BT's which would normally indicate that they dont have as many problems as Backdraft seem to...either that or backdraft do more of the conversions leading to a larger failure rate?
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    thanks for registering on the site just to try and gain momentum for your post.

    I wouldn't be holding any garage responsible if my engine blew up over a year of use.

    Did you have it serviced regulary ?

    Backdraft have asked me to delete this thread but I have taken it to the mods to see what they think.
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    Hi Timmys3,
    Thanks for posting your issues. If you would like to contact us directly Backdraft will be happy to address them directly.
    Regards
    Backdraft Motorsport.
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    Totally agree with Olly here, harsh to blame Backdraft for a blown engine after 12 months of use! As for the damaged pistons and perfect valves, sounds to me like it could have had a snapped campelt in the past, hence dents in the pistons, but new valves(or possibly a new/used head) was put on to rectify the problem.
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    When you say "blown up" what do you mean? Just stopped working, or rod through the block...?

    Could the "dents" be detonation marking? I'd expect something on the valves too, mind....? What fuel have you run in the car..?
    How many miles etc
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    I dont think the guy is out to blame anyone he was just asking if anyone else who has a Backdraft kit has had a similar issue. Maybe he shouldn't have mentioned their name but I didn't read his post as a blaming post.
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    an engine cant simply just blow up that would mean it has detinated which i cant belive, in which way has it BLOWN up???
    as said above looks like its possibly had a broken cambelt in its life time and caused some piston damage which has resulted in the engine failure but with out actually saying where the engine has failed other then BLOWING UP its hard to see how the turbo upgrade has caused the problem.
    how long did you have the car before getting the turbo done and do you no any history about the engine or cambelt???? cant really see what backdraft could have done myself
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    hmmmm, im not so sure i would want this thread deleting as if i wanted a BT kit later in life then i would want as much real time info as possible..... given how much money id be spending.... if one firm was having more issues than others id be certain to want to know about it!!

    can i make a suggestion to Backdrafts marketting department, resolution of a problem rather than masking it provides lots more trust IF masking was the intention.... sure we werent meant to know in theory about the delete request (im sure we could have worked it out though), nevertheless if Backdraft sort this guy out and diagnose the issues then fair play too them...... im sure he will post (maybe need nudging when he pays the bill) his positive comments about them

    im left thinking what they have to hide?:uhm:
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    there is no indercation that this guys fault is due to the backdraft kit thoguh as if he had a weakened engine from a previous fault then any big turbo could have caused the damage even still standard could have, we cant all blame backdraft,
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    hey Kev dont get me wrong mate im not blaming Backdraft for anything at all..... im being objectional and giving people the opportunity to post successes aswell as issues - this based on the fact that i personally have not witnessed any other companies issues in the past other than backdraft
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    So what exactly blew up? You said the car, but that could be anything from the headlights to the fuel tank. From the info you've given it's definitely a bit harsh to blame work done 12 months prior. What's the service schedule been like? And did you contact them before posting any of this?
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    i just think this thread isnt really the thread to be asking questions about backdrafts quality etc.. as its giving them a bad name for something that the guy who started the thread hasnt cleared up weather the fault can be pointed at backdraft or not,
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    I aint a mod at all, but i think this thread should stay in case anyone else wants to search at a later date. After a year its hard to blame anyone IMHO.

    I have had nothing but good contact with Mark and crew@ Backdraft myself
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    fully understand that Kev....my intention is not to slate Backdraft.... yes its a year on but how many times have we seen this problem with a none BT S3? i personally havent, if they arent to blame then fair enough
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    No blame of this should be associated with BD, they done the work and you were happy then and after a year, it cant be blamed upon them!

    I dont fully understand what you mean by the car blew up though? were you pushing it when this happened?
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    Am I the only one who cant see where the guy is blaming anyone? His car "blew up" and he has stated that he has a BD kit but at no point did the guy point the finger. It sounds like he just wants to find out if anyone else has had any issues after having a BD kit gitted. If everyone says no then he can then look into another reason why he "blew Up" maybe because he had TNT in the boot!
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    westle i fully understand that he hasnt pointed the finger.... but if you see Colonel Mustard in the bedroom with a smoking gun?

    the facts have been presented, i merely asked a sensible question after using my noodle and putting two and two together

    I ask again, have any of you seen this issue with a none BT car?
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    lol very true.

    Another question would be how many times have you seen this issue with a BT car?
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    I can see he hasn't blamed backdraft, but we all know where this is going.

    Why register to post it in the first place ? Why doesn't he take it up with backdraft directly ?

    Smells fishy to me, seems clear that he's trying to get something out of nothing.
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    The guy hasn't been back to post so he obviously isn't that bothered either. Maybe this thread should be shut.
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    its kind of hard to say weather anyone has seen this problem with a non bt s3 as the guy hasnt said what has happened lol, ive seen lots of failed engines including na 1.8 a4's

    i made that to be 4, am i right?? here's my working 2+2=4 lol
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    I personally think this thread should be deleted unless TimmyS3 has something to say about it soon.
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    ...word!
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    As pointed out a few times on this thread, what issue? Some troll comes on and says his 'car' blew up. Unless you know what the issue is, how do you know it's a BT thing? It could have easily been a cam belt/water pump problem.

    Unless the OP comes back and explains himself, there's little point to this thread.
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    Hello and Welcome to the site.
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    no timmy no .................... in a south park way
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    ahem i think the phrase you are looking for is "TimmaAaaaay!!!" i have it as a ring tone haha
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    I have had nothing but good treatment from all @ backdraft, i dont have a BT but still not had any problems with their work, touch wood, and agree with the others that this thread should be deleted.
    Seems like unfair bad press from where im sittin especailly as one, its over a year ago, and two he doesn't say how his car BLEW UP.....
    Where is the OP anyway?
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    The OP has been here....

    Last Activity: 1 Day Ago 10:51

    This information was taken from 09:42 Today.

    Lets not turn this thread into others i might mention and go at it hammer & tongs. It should be deleted but i think the chap should have the opportunity "possibly" to explain himself fully before we all jump the gun and string him up!

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    I have found them knowledgeable and helpful. The workshop is clean and they take a very professional approach to their work.

    There are too many variables as to why a car would 'blow up' to come to a sensible conclusion. The only reason for this post I can see is to gather accusatory information to throw back at BDM.

    Pointless post tbh, no sign of the OP to defend or discuss.... all conjecture IMO...

    +1 for deletion

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    Theres more info needed here. If a car was going to blow up following work by someone it would be a lot sooner than 12 months down the line.

    Sounds like something else has given up leading to the issue perhaps?.

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    this thread will be in the bin by the end of the week. He's also posted this in the A3 section which I have closed. I have a feeling someone is out to tarnish the company.
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    Totally agree Olly, two posts and both aimed at Backdraft seems fishy to me, he can reply to this one, why make a second post?

    We need answers! lol

    offtopic/

    2 Evo's Olly?
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