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Audi S3 vs golf gti mk5 gti ed30

Discussion in 'A3/S3/Sportback (8P Chassis)' started by asbos3, Sep 26, 2013.

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    Just looking at new cars and need a bit of help deciding does anyone have experince of both of these am coming form a mk4 golf which was problmaic to say the least and have settle on these 2.

    golf is cheaper than the S3
    S3 has more power


    so what do people reckon?
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    S3
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    Would you choose a cheap heart bypass?
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    Why settle for 2nd when you can have 1st.
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    leeds2592 When I grow up, I want a 964!

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    Even though they are quite nice, I've always pictured Golf's as a poor mans A3/S3.

    Defo S3.
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    Stage 1 map takes them both to the same power.

    Edition 30 for me
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    i love these responces fine i shall go for the S3 then looks like a trip to the bank to sort some money out
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    thats what i like someone who doesn't arse about !! you won't regret the S3 i've had 2 of 'em.
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    Goodlad you wont regret it!
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    both are excellent cars. audi is a bit more classier and it has quattro which is the big plus when driving on rainy, cold winter days and of course on snow. they are both tunable to the similar figures but as i've said putting 360bhp through front wheels on a wet road isn't easy :D
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    If you have the money,get the S3,otherwise,the ED30.

    The ED30 is an excellent car and can be very quick,but the S3 has that bit more capability.
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    just do it and you wont regret it! S3 is going to be a totally new car for you, better interior, quattro, luxury looks and plenty of friends willing to push you to go and tune hell out of it sooner rather than later:]
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    That is so true.

    Buy it,enjoy it,and make it faster.
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    Ask the same question on the mk5 forum :cool:
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    s3 happy days, but is the golf not meant to be better handler?
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    the reason i asked on here is because i was elarning towards the S3 but ED30 was just a thought at the back the mind
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    S3, had a MK5 golf and an 8P A3 before my S3 and although similar the audi felt like you where in a prestige car. No rattles etc was a much nicer place to be.
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    As I said,both are good cars,but there is so much more you can get out of the S3,if you want to.
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    no biased opinions here haha!! MK5 Gti is a very nice car. My friend has a mk6 Gti Edition 35 and it can certainly go! I have only seen his one on the road so for originality id say ed35 depending on your budget..
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    well my budget will be about 13,000 as i am selling my car and all mods seprately and then a get a loan from the bank so i dont have to worry about it not being realiably
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    Although only one of them will be putting the power into the tarmac....
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    I've got both and up to stage 2+ the Ed30 is a lot more fun.

    The s3 has AWD and is built slightly better.... Apart from that, what one looks better to you?
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    S3 better looks no wheel spin or torque steer!
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    But above Stg2+.....you must be very pleased with your S3!
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    It's a totally different car now! I wouldn't even consider going BT on the Ed30.

    But I've got used to the DSG on the Ed30, it's taken a few years but I really like it. When I jump in the S3 I sometimes wish it had S-tronic (mainly in traffic). The missus loves the DSG also (and I prefer her driving with DSG) Gives her one less thing to concentrate on.... :scared2:
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    For £13k you could have a VERY nice ED30 and an OK S3 with higher miles.. Same internals no 4WD on the Golf but they handle well tough choice, I'd go with ED 30 for that kind of money if you can stretch a few more k's Id go S3
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    I came from a Stage 1 Leon K1 which is essentially the same as the golf Ed30.

    Have no regrets whatsoever moving to an S3, knowing I have grip in the wet is great - the DSG box is an excellent piece of kit too :)

    It would have to be a dry day to get the power down in my Leon - god knows what it would have been like at stage 2+.

    S3 all day, especially if you plan to map - lets face it, the weather in this country is either wet / damp or snowing, quattro helps immensely.
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    I went from a MK4 Golf GTi to an S3, and it was awesome.

    I have not really had much experience of other Golfs, but the main thing that struck me about the S3 (and any Audi for that matter) was the build quality and the confidence I had when driving in the wet was far better.

    Little things like when you close the door on the Audi - it goes "CLUNG" with a heavy and solid feel - like the door will protect you from being hit from the side way more than the lightweight feel of the Golf.

    After going from a company car Audi 2.0 TFSI quattro to the Golf was a bit scary at first, as I was so used to 4WD, and it took me ages to get my feel for the 2WD in the wet again.

    When I then bought my S3, it was like an old friend coming home, and I was able to corner and drive more safely (or at least it inspired more confidence when I did).

    I know this is an Audi forum, but it looks better in my opinion and it seems to project a more aspirational feel - like it is the upgrade to the Golf somehow.

    And if you tune the thing up, you'll love it.
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    My best friend has an edition 30.

    It was used as Revo's software development car.

    stage 2+ is unreal in that thing, relentless power, no dips, no matter the heat outside, it just runs far better.

    At the end of the day it's the same lump under there bar a slightly weaker bottom end. None of that matters unless you go more than 440bhp as it's capable of that just like the S3 is.

    Whiteline anti-lift kit and rear ARB and it outruns (stage ahead granted) and out corner my S3 no problem at all and I don't drive slowly at all!!
    Some on here have had the pleasure of riding shotgun...;)

    In the wet, different story completely. Audi much better, and the noise from the Milltek when you hit the limiter with DSG and the traction control off is insanely good.

    Golfs come with a better spec, tilt down on reverse mirrors for example, can't get that on our Audi's.

    Ed30 seats are far better than standard S3 seats.

    Then you have the price of the thing initially, it's cheaper, but in reality, for no great reason other than VW sits lower in the VAG group in prestige terms.

    In my eyes purely the badge makes it expensive. as most parts are shared with the Golf MK5 GTI and 4wd R32.

    you could say a hybrid of them both make the S3.

    I like the S3, and it gets the nod from most, stands out too.

    However I'd love to leave it in the car park and not worry about it going walkies or something being broken.

    With the Golf, common as muck, just another Golf in the car park to most, it's highly understated, and yes the S3 is too but not quite so.

    If I were to choose again, I'll take the Golf, cheaper, lighter, often quicker in a straightline (not from standing start obviously) and with the Anti lift kit it's a dream to drive.

    Nothing like 'bigging up' a VW on and audi forum but it deserves far more credit than most give it.

    Find an Ed30, a 2+ one!

    S3 is a little 'safe'
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    I went from a Golf 5 Gti (200ps) to an S3.
    Its not a massive leap but for me it did still feel like a leap.

    The Golf is a superb car but I prefer the way the S3 looks and also the cabin.
    The Golf is probably more lively but the outright all weather grip of the S3 is a major trump card for me.

    Funnily enough when I bought my first S3 nearly new (57 Plate) it was very similar in price to the ED30 at the time so the choice back then was an easy one.
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    right to end things now i will be getting an S3 i feel its little more grown up a car has 4wd system to help keep in check in the rain and such even if i do i got a 90,000 millage there will be a full service happening to it straight and i mean full everything getting done including the haldex system serviced.

    i do ed30 but as i said the s3 looks more grown up and i have a wide range of racey little cars including a turbo mk3 fiesta was meant to be a 1l but ended up with the fiesta rs lump.

    so has anyone got anything that is a must check for them when looking at the S3
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    Similar cars ive driven both as standard the s3 feel stronger and much better put together and felt much faster, S3 is the one mate
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    leeds2592 When I grow up, I want a 964!

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    Birds like it more if you say you drive an Audi rather than a Golf :eyebrows:
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    And arnt the golfs a little bit taller then the 8P's? wouldnt that mean the centre of gravity on the S3 would be slightly lower to the ground for better handling? :p
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    You could kill this debate in one fell swoop...

    One is a an Audi and one is a Volkswagen, you'd be mad to take a VW over an Audi, enough said
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    One ticket for the nuthouse please :w00t:

    [​IMG]
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    same power but how it puts it down quattro all day long!
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    Or have mine?? Going to sell in January, going to put it up at around £13000, low mileage, stage 2+ revo with Airtec intercooler. Sprint blue with black grills and alloys :D
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