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Audi Ashtray Cup alternatives ?

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    [Sep 22, 2013]
    Just wondering if anyone has a use for the Ashtray / Cup that comes with the car.
    Apart from putting spare change in it.

    Anyone modified the cup in any way so it's more useful ?

    Or has anyone replaced the cup with some thing else?

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    Thanks.
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    I took it out and put it in the garage, its probably an expensive acc but it takes up space for my inverter. my pet hate is people with lose change lying about in cars.
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    I like seeing my illuminated cup holders but also want somewhere for my change, and as I have a 3 door it lives in the cup holder just behind the drivers seat ;)
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    I use mine to keep my wife's sweets in, could do with another Audi cup for my own sugar free sweets - any offers anyone?

    Manor13, you might want to sell yours?
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    Where is the cup holder behind the drivers seat?
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    On the outside of the rear seats, 3 door only though
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    So if I opt for the no smoking package do I get an extra 12v socket? Can anyone post pics of smoking pack vs the non smoking pack?
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    [Sep 22, 2013]
    If you opt for the non smoking pack the just don't give you the cup or the cig lighter, and replace the lighter with a blank that has 12V printed on it ;)

    The cups sell for about £40-50 I believe
    http://bit.ly/RKuiCd
    The blanks for about £10
    http://bit.ly/1f8y3QE

    I think some people opt for non smoking pack just as a statement, but regret it after as they actually gain nothing but lose a handy coin holder ;)
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    The cups sell for £15, not £50! Having bought mine off ebay, I'm finding that I'm actually not using it at all. Perhaps I should find a use for it... but it isn't all that useful.
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    [Sep 23, 2013]
    I think I saw £48 direct from Audi?

    Either way I'm sure if you request non smoking it's prob removed at the dealer then they will prob stick the cup on eBay, people may as well do this themselves ;)
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    [Sep 23, 2013]
    As Cemerson said above, they were £15 off eBay. We all had a buying purge on them a while back - see thread few pages back!

    I read on here (somewhere) that the 12v sockets in the non-smoking pack were also rated differently to be proper 12v sockets, not just dual purpose ciggy lighters.

    Cheers, Paul
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    Ok thanks for the reply- guess it makes since to go for the cup holder. So the cup holder options the smoking pot as this is designed as an ashtray??
    In that case then why don't they provide a 12v cig lighter?
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    I'm sure the don't wire up the car differently if you chose the "non smoking pack" as this would not be cost effective. I'm sure they just replace the removable lighter with a plug.
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    [Sep 23, 2013]
    A wiring change isn't going to alter the rating, I understood it was nothing more complicated than a different fuze!

    Cheers, Paul
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    Yes I remember seeing something somewhere that implied the ratings were different - who knows?
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    I think it's the same fuse rating either way - I had a look at the fuse ratings in the handbook to investigate this a week or so back.

    The reason I looked is that the handbook does say that the lighter socket should only be used temporarily as a power source, but it doesn't say that about the 12V socket. This made me wonder if the bottom contact is a different shape or something (one to contact with the lighter, and the other to be a better contact on a 12V plug)... Didn't really make sense given they haven't reduced the rating of the fuse though.

    I've only got the one socket in my car (lighter socket as I fancied having the cup thing!). Does anyone have Storage pack and a lighter? If so, are the contacts in the lighter socket the same as the contacts in the 12V socket in the back of the car?
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    [Sep 23, 2013]
    There must be something different about them. In the handbook (page 66) we are warned that: 'The cigarette lighter should only be used as a power source in exceptional circumstances, e.g. for the compressor of the tyre repair kit'.

    The only warning we get on the next page (page 67) for the 12v socket is: 'The appliances connected to the socket must not exceed a power rating of 120W'. No mention of any 'exceptional circumstances'!

    Cheers, Paul.
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    Yeh, perhaps this is what I saw which made me spec the non smoking pack just in case.
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    [Sep 23, 2013]
    I have the 12v socket in the back of the car so I will compare them ;)

    Surly the lighter must draw more current that most things you would plug in anyway?
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    Thank you! And, regardless of how much current the lighter draws, I think I read that it's a 20 Amp fuse for the lighter socket so you'd have thought the socket itself must be rated for that.
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    [Sep 23, 2013]
    There is actually a slight difference.

    The front has the clips either side to make contact with the lighter and a ceramic plate to take the heat
    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1379945173.953273.jpg

    The rear one is a bit more basic
    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1379945200.936316.jpg

    But it just occurred to me as I have an S-Line should I not have one in the boot too? If so where would I find it? Lol
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    Took me a while to find it as I had already put my rapid detailer and glass cleaner and cloths in the recess on the left hand side of the boot with the littl mesh sliding side wall (part of storage pack). The socket is actually in the base of this recess so once you put something in there you cant see it, not the most accesible place to locate it to be honest
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    Lol in the bottom?? My FOC bottle of oil is in there and never taken it out! Will check it later.

    Thanks Dave :)
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    My net is in that pocket and there isn't room for a whole lot else when it's in there!
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    I have the boot on the higher level and leave the large net permanatly connected to the anchor points and it sits flat on the boot floor when on the higher level.
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    I have mine on the lower level as I prefer the bigger space... maybe I can shove the net under the boot floor with the tyre and first aid kit, jack etc, can't see myself using it much
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    Ah yes it is there :) weird place though lol
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    [Sep 23, 2013]
    I run a 150w inverter in my cig lighter not had any problems and thats with charging a tablet and sat nav, I have sat nav built in but its a sd card and not as good as my old garmin.
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    DAMN IT lol... i've only just ordered and you have me thinking about this now! Although i did notice those cup holders hidden away :D cheers for the idea!
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    Would I be right in assuming that if you have it on the lower level, you can't carry the spare wheel?
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    [Sep 24, 2013]
    Space saver and B&O sub fit in with boot at lower level ;)
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    [Sep 24, 2013]
    Yes handy cup holders those :) and the Audi cup/ash tray is a perfect fit ;)
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    Are you sure? I've just had a look and mine looks like you would have to remove the spare wheel to lower it.
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    Yup deffo fits in the lower position ;) is your spare a space saver?
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    Definitely does fit! Although if you have to use the spare (as I did), the boot floor has to sit in the higher position to take your standard size wheel of course!
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    As above.

    Boot floor can be in lower position with space saver but only in upper position with full sized alloy.

    John.
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    [Sep 24, 2013]
    Having ordered the non-smoking pack i have requested that the Audi Ashtray is sent with my order...seeing as i have paid for it! Dealer said 'no problem' and i have that in writing.
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    Great, good idea.

    I would be interested to know if there is any difference at all by doing this though?

    I wonder if some people with the non smoking pack could take a pic of the 12v front socket to see if it differs from the one I posted?

    I would like to know once and for all if there is any difference or if you opt for it is it just taken out by the dealer and then sold off on eBay lol ;)
    Does it show on your options list in your service book?
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    [Sep 25, 2013]
    Non-smoking pack has a chrome front to the switch whilst opting to keep the smoking pack leaves you with a black plastic cover to the switch.
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    [Sep 25, 2013]
    Like this one ;)

    http://bit.ly/1f8y3QE

    I was wondering more about the actual socket, if that differed at all?
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