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Audi A4 (B7) S-Line TDI - Oil Pressure Warning, No Power, Turbo? on M25...!!

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    I recently bought a Audi A4 (B7) 2007 S-Line TDI 2.0 170BHP with 73k miles about three months ago from auction, etc. I was driving to work on the M25 for the first time in this car everything has been running fine on it, suddenly I get red flashing oil pressure light, and absolutely no power when I put my foot down.

    I pulled over initially thinking perhaps its been leaking oil (I saw some on the drive, but not sure if it was my friends old car or mine) topped it up got it slightly over perfect but plenty of oil, started it but once I get over 2000 rev's the "Oil Pressure" light came on, and there was absolutely no power almost as if the turbo wasn't working?

    None the less it wasn't drivable and I had to arrange recovery.

    The engine sounds slightly nosier than it should be but it does run, what could this be? Has anyone had this before?

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    Sounds very much like the oil pump / balance shaft failure, have a look at the sticky in this section.

    if it is the above then the worst thing to do is drive the car
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    I'm afraid it does sound like oil pump or strainer blocked. Get it checked out. Don't drive or start it. The more you do the more expensive the bill. Can damage turbo etc.
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    The B7's seem to be dropping like flies at the moment.
    Can these get repaired via car insurance or not?
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    Sorry to here ya news mate. Another day another oil pump gone! must be the cold weather :think:. As said before big sticky at top of this section is worth a read. Also November issue of audi driver magazine covers this known issue in detail .If someone does by it would they kindly scan it and upload it somewhere :)

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    Hi there,

    I’m new to this forum so I thought I would tell you what happened to my Audi B6 A4 Cab Quattro Sport 1.8T 2004.

    The repair was done on 06/12/12

    I had the same warning come up on the dash saying low oil pressure after a journey that was 25 miles on the motorway, I had stopped at Tesco on my way home 1/2 a mile from my house and the low oil pressure light came on just after i left the car park, got it home oil level was fine so I called the AA to recover the car and get it to my local garage that I knew (do this otherwise could cost a fortune) Audi want £80.00 plus VAT per hour just to look at the car.... Mine needed a service and was my fault I didn’t get it done in time so only me to blame, the garage dropped the sump and found oil strainer was blocked, about £10.00 part it needed a new oil pump £67.00 from GSF and a gasket glue £7.50, oil and filter £15.50 for both (Euro Car Parts) big job to do and wouldn’t even attempt it on the road or drive on jacks, had to have the air-con re gassed as they couldn’t get the sump back on with the pipe in the way over all cost me £275.. the garage advised me the turbo could of gone if I hadn’t got it done now because the thick oil gets into the Turbo and the breaks it..


    So just do a bit of shopping around for the parts, GSF sometimes cheaper than Euro car parts and vice versa Car parts aswell, I'd also advise you search for vouchers online e.g GSF 10% off, euro car parts 5% off, all helps out...

    I wouldn’t believe allot of forums people seem to enjoy scaring people into thinking it will cost £1000's AA said 5K and didn’t even ask Audi.


    Really hope this helps out.

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    Pretty much the same thing happened to me on motorway. IF you are lucky and the car has been fully serviced by Audi you maybe able to get a "goodwill" gesture from them towards any potential cost. If however you tow it to your nearest garage then you wont stand much chance of any compo.

    Do not attempt to drive it any further.
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    You will get nothing from Audi !
    over 60,000 and three years without a full AUDI MAIN DEALER SERVICE HISTORY and YOU will get NOTHING .
    Audi after sales support for the used car owner is shocking, they are not Toyota, absolutley rubbish company to deal with once your warranty has expired.
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    I've only had this just over four months (Just checked) has full audi service history, all I can say is this is appalling spoken with Audi it's about £1600 + VAT and + £150 to check, if other bits and bobs are damaged its £3000+ this is absolutely crazy.

    I will NEVER be buying an Audi again, especially after reading all the other people that have had this problem, dreadful! No goodwill either even though my sister, father and me all have Audi's that have full service history!!
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    [Dec 8, 2012]
    Just been to Audi near me, seeing the manager on Monday. I just went to Toyota too they were more helpful and tried to arrange to get the car fixed, good friendly service.

    I'm now thinking to get a a new Toyota GT86, Audi are going to lose a lifelong customer if they ignore me on their offical facebook page, I'm 19 how many cars will I buy in my lifetime?....
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    You wont be keeping the GT86 for very long.
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    Taken the car into the local Audi garage, they admitted it was a common fault. I've also heard back from Audi UK after posting on Facebook they are getting in touch with the garage, I'll let you know what Audi's next move is.
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    They want £5700 to repair it absolutely dreadful!!!!! its blatantly a manufacturers fault. Heres some stuff I put on their facebook page.


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    Flipping heck, pissed you off is an understatement lol
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    Why not get in touch with VOSA, if it is a safety issue they will investigate. It's the only way we could get them to replace the injectors.
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    I'm one of the calmest people you'll ever meet I sware but I just hit boiling point with them, I got such a headache from the anger I had to take neurofen!! Honestly they are lucky I'm not driving right now I'd gone there with a sledgehammer, I can see how people kill now when wound up this much.

    Going to see them tommorow and getting my solicitor involved if they don't offer to contribute more. Goodwill my ass.
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    Stay calm but be firm. Good luck.
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    I wonder if it's worth contacting trading standards ? Any item, despite what the guarantee states, has to be expected to work for a reasonable amount of time. I can't remember the terminology but say you buy a tv and it breaks down in 3 years you can go back and be entitled to part of the repair cost to be paid as you should expect it to last at least xx years etc. It's on their website somewhere, we not long ago quoted it to dixons and, fair doos, they fixed a tv out of guarantee for free.
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    Well they got in touch to say my facebook posts are "deflamitory" and rather than try offer to fix my issue they are now offering £3600 to repair it, they can get on there bike if they want to take a customer to court over posts on Facebook rather than fix an extremely dangerous fault thats caused crashes what does this say about the type of company they are.
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    I'm guessing you mean either "defamatory" or "inflammatory". Who are you referring to when you say "they", your Audi dealer or Audi UK?
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    Audi UK, like i'm gobsmacked... utterly gobsmacked what kind of company is this? They gave a cheaper offer but its still 2.5x any other garage because they want the problem gone. I'm talking to my friends mate who works at the Daily Mail tomorrow.
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    I appreciate how upset you are, but Audi UK is offering to contribute 63% of the cost of repairing a car that is five years old and has done 73,000 miles, and which was bought at auction. Take a few minutes to consider that in its proper context before you anything that is likely to alienate the business to the point where it decides to withdraw the offer.
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    The problem is you have used pictures of new Audi models that are not affected with the oil pump fault, so I can see why they have come back with the "defamatory" comment rather than a solution to fix your car.

    It also does not affect all 2.0 TDi engines, don't believe any of the A3 owners have been affected. Have to say why VW has not put there hands up to this fault is just shocking, it's a major design fault on the car, and the fix is so easy (design a shaft with no play, so the dam thing does not round off) Hope you get Audi to sort it FoC.
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    There offer is extremely expensive even with goodwill compared to going to ANY garage that buys the parts from Audi themselves, they just want me to go to another garage so they don't have the problem, this is a manufacturing fault - I have 30+ entries on my petition of other Audi drivers with the same problem and it's not even been 24 hours how can they say this isn't a common fault.

    I should have bloody bought that new c-class mercades in the first place, there are 4 Audi's in this household certainly not after this, dreadful company to deal with. Why should I even have to go to these extreme just to get a reply from them?
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    [Dec 13, 2012]
    An A3 user called Emma had exactly the same problem and when her's blew it leaked oil all over the carriageway and caused two lorries to crash.
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    I have been down the path of trying to resolve my own particular issue with Audi ( 2.0 tdi BLB coded engine in a 2005 model, bought from Audi as a used approved car and with FASH) My unit failed at 68K. I have driven Audis ( mostly used approved ) for the last 20-25 years and quoted all of this and more to Audi UK and after seven letters over three-four months I got nothing back.
    The fact is unless VOSA get involved Audi walk away. Audi have written to me saying there responsibilities end after 60,000 miles or three years and if I had wanted to take the issue up with them I should have purchased an extended warranty from Audi themselves.
    I like my car, I dislike the Audi management who are only interested in selling new cars.
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    But you didn't buy a new Mercedes, you bought a five year old Audi at auction. You said it yourself, you have "gone to extremes", and as a result, you have received a substantial offer that no one else in this thread predicted. If you look back, you'll see that most people said you would get nothing from Audi UK. Well, you have got something, and the art of negotiation in a hard spot is knowing just how far to go, and recognising when to stop. Like I said, think long and hard before you press on and risk losing what is on offer.
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    I've never dealt with a company this bad they just get to big and don't care about the customer. At this point I'd get more pleasure going to buy the GT86 or C-Class Coupe and leaving mine outside there forecourt with signs in the windows, if sales are the only thing they care about I'll strike where it hurts.

    If anyone can tell im pretty wretched about the way I've been treated.


    Your right it's a better offer than most people have got -- however it's still x2.5 more expensive than a local garage buying the parts from Audi themselves so I think they simply want me to go elsewhere so they don't have the problem. I'll NEVER buy an Audi NEW or OLD ever again worst customer service ever, like I said on there facebook I get better service at Costa Coffee.

    Edit: It's not like im not paying I don't mind just make the figure somewhat reasonable, they are too happy to charge me £150 an hour to have alook. (Range Rover charges £140 an hour).
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    Strange not heard any of the A3's affected, was it the exact same fault oil shaft rounding?
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    You have a private message
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    What you are referring to here is the requirement for goods to be of reasonable quality and fit for purpose. These requirements are incorporated into the consumer protection laws known generally as sale of goods acts. There have been several acts down the years, all building on the original Sale of Goods Act, which I believe, without looking it up, was in 1973. The most recent update, having looked it up, was the Sale and Supply of Goods to Consumers Regulations 2002. However, the protection under this legislation is between the consumer and the party which either sold or supplied the goods (or services) at the centre of the dispute. In this case, the car was neither sold nor supplied by Audi UK. If the original poster wishes to pursue a remedy based on sale of goods laws, then his dispute is with whoever he bought the card from, which I seem to recall was an auction house.
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    Hi Jeff, I'm backing off till I hear back from them got through to the manager they are going to make another offer. The firm that owns the garage also owns Toyota next door and they are trying to work out a deal if I take out a new toyota.

    I'll stay calm and leave Audi alone for now.
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    Good pics lol

    good luck hope they do something for u
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    [Dec 13, 2012]
    Having watched this post unfold (I am unaffected by this BTW), ask yourself the following questions:

    Would you buy a house without a survey?
    Would you buy a TV without reading reviews?
    Would you marry someone without first dating?
    Would you take a job with no interview?

    So then: Why would you buy a car without first researching the faults which it is known to have?

    Also, don't think for a minute that Audi is the only German manufacturer with issues like this (search for BMW swirl flaps).

    P.S. Your spelling is atrocious.
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    The petition is getting larger day by day, I've spoken with Audi UK it's just a pass the parcel job you can never get through to anyone with decision making power. I'm getting my copywriter to write the webpage and letter to e-mail around then once we have enough signatures I'll proceed and contact the press, watchdog and VOSA.

    I've spoken to my solicitor he had similar dealings with Audi a few years ago (not Audi UK), apparently they were just as stubborn, not looking good but none the less it's still a manufacturers design fault with the oil pump.
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    Hindsight is a wonderfull thing ALL cars have faults and whilst you can do your research till the cows come home you buy your car thinking that it will never happen to you OR you havent been made fully aware of the extent of the problem. Does this mean that if something goes wrong with your car its you and you only that takes full responsiility?

    If that is the case then I feel you are living in a fantasy world. when you buy a car you expect their maybe issues but not to the extent that it could cause a major accident. I was in my car with my son on the motorway fortunatley it was at a time were their wasn't any traffic on the road. If it had their would have been a full blown accident as I was in the outside lane at 70mph when it blew and shot down from that speed to limp in the blink of an eye.

    I suggest you do some more reading before you make a somewhat ill informed generalistion of Audi owners on here.
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    its not just audi's, i'm sure you could get a load more signatures if you branched out into the whole of the Vag range, also post on vwaudi forums might get more there also

    good luck

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    On the way to part exchange it for my new mercades the turbo just blew up and re-enacted the afghanistan invasion in smoke, merc wont accept it now until i get it repaired and the part is £1000+ God I cannot honestly believe this car. Thank god for my AA breakdown cover I've spent more time this month being towed by an AA van than driving my Audi.
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    You drove it to Mercedes with a faulty balancer shaft? Now your complaining that the turbo has blown? There were enough people on here saying don't drive it as it will blow the turbo!
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