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AUDI A3 8VA SportBack 16 Ambiente Business: steering wheel and vocal controls.How ?

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    Hello everyone, I'm a happy owner of a fantastic 8VA Audi A3 sportback 1.6 TDi Ambiente with business package.
    My car does NOT have the steering wheel controls, and consequently even the voice commands (I'm still thanking the seller that the advice (not) gave me

    Now I feel the need to recover them.
    Does anyone know if there is any chance to recover both the steering wheel controls voice for those who operate the system MMI Base Business packet 5.8 inc?

    It is possible to activate TPMS by VCDS?
    thank you very much
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    can't say about the steering wheel but as far as the TPMS goes its not just a case of using VCDS to enable it .there is extra wiring and controller needed and when this becomes available it could be £300 ish for the parts alone.
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    thank you but there steering wheels have only flat, and only steering wheels command but not voice command :(
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    UP!
    any chance?
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    Sounds like you don't have a UK spec car as we don't have an 'MMI business package' and the voice commands are standard here.

    There is a thread in the VCDS forum where someone has made some good progress enabling TPMS with VCDS, but I don't know how much it would be to retrofit the steering wheel with voice command button. User 'NHN' on here may know as he retrofits a lot of things.
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    Grazie 1000 Veeight
    Thak You very very much
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    I've installed, aftermarket by AUDI original spare part (retrofit) steering wheel command; but at authorized AUDI workshop was not able to activate voice command.
    This is the question:


    I'd Like to know if Can I activate VOICE command onto my AUDI A3 8V (sportback edition) SportBack 1.6 that come with MMI basic 5.8" sat-nav, Bluetooth handfree e steering wheel command, but not voice command and "*" key is not coded.


    Tuesday,08,July,2014,22:34:26:14849
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
    VCDS Version: 14.7.0.0
    Data version: 20140601


    VIN: WAUZZZ8V8DAXXXX License Plate: XXXXXX
    Mileage: 20515km-12747mi Repair Order:



    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Chassis Type: 8V (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 55 5F

    VIN: WAUZZZ8V8DAXXXXXXX Mileage: 20515km-12747miles

    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CLHA) Labels: 04L-907-309-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 04L 906 021 AL HW: 04L 907 309 B
    Component: R4 1,6L EDC H22 5516
    Revision: 84H22---
    Coding: 02190012032401092000
    Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI01104L906021AL 002009
    ROD: EV_ECM16TDI01104L906021AL.rod
    VCID: 6FEBA25FB6A70D4286-803A

    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 5Q0-907-379.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 AC HW: 5Q0 907 379 D
    Component: ESC H75 0437
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number:
    Coding: 12F162A220270A740180060401C82548460450806080A4F20259000405
    Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
    ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 008020
    ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_AU37.rod
    VCID: 7DF78817ECCB6FD204-8028

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (E87) Labels: 8V0-820-047.clb
    Part No SW: 8V0 820 047 B HW: 8V0 820 047 B
    Component: AC Manuell el H09 0031
    Revision: 20017000 Serial number: 00000000015064
    Coding: 03000104002000001000000000000100
    Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
    ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiFrontManAU37X 008016
    ROD: EV_AirCondiFrontManAU37X.rod
    VCID: 35675037947B77928C-8060

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 Q HW: 5Q0 937 084 Q
    Component: BCM MQBAB H H14 0106
    Serial number: 00011311200381
    Coding: 04000A42C2C1227D03844000001C07A8000C000000000000000000000000
    Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
    ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 010001
    ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_AU37.rod
    VCID: 468527FBF99DEC0A15-8013

    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8V1 955 119 A HW: 8V1 955 119
    Component: WWS370 130412 041 0580
    Serial number: 130415184616
    Coding: 0A47F7

    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 A HW: 8U0 955 559 A
    Component: G397_RLS H06 0002
    Serial number: 20112867
    Coding: 00006C

    Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8V0 941 531 L HW: 8V0 941 531 L
    Component: E1 - LDS MQB H05 0032
    Serial number: 05 03 2013 00000197

    No fault code found.

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    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791) Labels: 5Q0-919-283.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q0 919 283 A HW: 5Q0 919 283
    Component: PARKHILFE 4K 009 0026
    Revision: -------- Serial number: 60831310802177
    Coding: 0000040001
    Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
    ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000 002015
    ROD: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000_AU37.rod
    VCID: 377B5A3F8E7785829E-8062

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 5Q0-959-655.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 N HW: 5Q0 959 655 N
    Component: AirbagVW20 011 0361
    Serial number: 003M2R017KNJ
    Coding: 98CCC0000C0000005C540000004800000065
    Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
    ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002126
    ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_AU37.rod
    VCID: 4B9316CFE2FF1162CA-801E

    Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side:
    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 001 604 13
    Component: SideSensor_Df 001 0887
    Serial number: 35767000000A39309C0V
    Coding: 2D2D2D

    Crash sensor for side airbag; passenger side:
    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 001 604 13
    Component: SideSensor_Pf 001 0887
    Serial number: 358670000000279D0D0U
    Coding: 2D2D2D

    Crash sensor for side airbag; rear driver side:
    Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 400 304 13
    Component: SideSensor_Dr 001 6149
    Serial number: 3516502C50FEA2160304
    Coding: 2D2D2D

    Crash sensor for side airbag; rear passenger side:
    Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 400 304 13
    Component: SideSensor_Pr 001 6149
    Serial number: 3526502C70FEA211930B
    Coding: 2D2D2D

    Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side:
    Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 401 503 13
    Component: FrontSensor_D 001 6149
    Serial number: 35565029B0FAE894331R
    Coding: 2D2D2D

    Pedestrian protection crash sensor; driver side:
    Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 401 604 13
    Component: PedP_Sensor_D 001 6149
    Serial number: 2286502A70FAE8A2F0B+
    Coding: 2D2D2D

    Pedestrian protection crash sensor; passenger side:
    Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 401 604 13
    Component: PedP_Sensor_P 001 6149
    Serial number: 22965029D0FAE8A5530W
    Coding: 2D2D2D

    Center pedestrian protection crash sensor:
    Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 401 604 13
    Component: PedP_Sensor_C 001 6149
    Serial number: 2306502C90FBDE34C0B-
    Coding: 2D2D2D

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb
    Part No SW: 8V0 953 521 C HW: 5Q0 953 549 A
    Component: Lenks. Modul 007 0070
    Revision: -------- Serial number: 20041308490755
    Coding: AE08
    Shop #: WSC 30488 000 1048576
    ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 009001
    ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_AU37.rod
    VCID: 3A7D430BBD6598EA61-806F

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
    Part No SW: 8V0 920 870 B HW: 8V0 920 870 B
    Component: KOMBI H24 0570
    Coding: 07A40A002A80000804006800000000
    Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
    ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 008026
    ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_AU37.rod
    VCID: 3A7D430BBD6598EA61-806F

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: None
    Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 J HW: 5Q0 907 530 F
    Component: GW MQB High 125 1126
    Revision: -------- Serial number: 0000529803
    Coding: 030100F40B0876005B000248080B00000001000000000000000000000000
    Shop #: WSC 30488 000 1048576
    ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 008010
    ROD: EV_GatewLear_AU37.rod
    VCID: 3879590383698AFA97-806D

    Alternator:

    Multifunction unit control module:
    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 951 528 HW: 8U0 951 528
    Component: E221 - MFL H02 0014
    Serial number: 06 01 2014 B1288208

    Battery Monitoring Control Module:
    Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 D HW: 5Q0 915 181 D
    Component: J367-BDM H08 0192
    Serial number: 00000000004051251001

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels: 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 A HW: 5Q0 959 593
    Component: TSG FS 012 0006
    Serial number: 12041303110049
    Coding: 001C0E205C00040000001002
    Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
    ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
    ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO.rod
    VCID: 3F8B321FA647BDC256-806A

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500) Labels: 5Q0-909-144.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 L HW: 5Q0 909 144 L
    Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS 119 1021
    Coding: 81
    Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
    ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 008022
    ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB.rod
    VCID: 3D774817AC4BAFD244-8068

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels: 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 A HW: 5Q0 959 592
    Component: TSG BFS 012 0006
    Serial number: 06041306071109
    Coding: 001C06205E00040000001002
    Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
    ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
    ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO.rod
    VCID: 3E754F1BA14DB4CA5D-806B

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range (J431) Labels: 5Q0-907-357.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q0 907 357 HW: 6R0 907 357 A
    Component: LWR-ECU 005 0070
    Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
    Coding: 018A000001000000
    Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
    ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB 001110
    ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB.rod
    VCID: 75E79037D4FB37924C-8020

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels: None
    Part No SW: 8V0 035 864 B HW: 8V0 035 864 B
    Component: MU-S-N-ER 040 0420
    Serial number: A3F00703143183
    Coding: 01730301FF00000021110001000A00002F0004440100010006
    Shop #: WSC 62665 001 1048576
    ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CPASE 002018
    ROD: EV_MUStd4CPASE_AU37.rod
    VCID: 3A7D430BBD6598EA61-806F

    Engine Control Module 2:
    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 866 A HW: -----------
    Component: ECE 2013 --- 0021
    Serial number: --------------------

    Seat Adjustment Driver Side:
    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 603 C HW: 8V0 919 603 C
    Component: DU Std H48 0013
    Serial number: AUZ8Z9DY3004UU

    Sound System:
    Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 614 B HW: 8V0 919 614 B
    Component: ControlUnit_B H33 0037
    Serial number: C1000006031300010138

    No fault code found.

    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:38)--------------------------

    some questions:
    in 5F module I've changed the last number from 4 (orginal one) to the actual 6. with this I can see the VOICE menu (SDS) in the MMI and the function is ok, but only for minutes. Pushing the SDS key (with icon face), beep, a windows is displayed, I talk and my car listen to me. But when I switch off the car, and than switch on, the function is lost. When I push the key of SDS, non beep, and no ear, I only can see a windows with the icon face, but nothing more. The MMI Voice menu is still there.
    Another strange thing is that the " * " was not coded. Nothing appen when pushing it.
    So I've found this coding:
    5F: Adaptation
    (77)-Vehicle function list BAP-MFL_Jocker_0x34 - Activated
    (1)-Vehicle function list CAN-MFL - Available
    (146) Vehicle menu operation MFL_Jocker - Activated


    With this setting I'm able to set " * " but the VOICE MENU SETTING is SETUP -> CAR -is not more shown even the code for this is unchanged.

    This are my debug log:
    Code:
    Address 5F:8V0 035 864 B recoded (ADP-(77)-Vehicle function list BAP-MFL_Jocker_0x34) from not activated to activated Tuesday,08,July,2014,23:11:31:14849
    Address 5F:8V0 035 864 B recoded (ADP-(1)-Vehicle function list CAN-MFL) from Not available to Available Tuesday,08,July,2014,23:12:35:14849
    Address 5F:8V0 035 864 B recoded (ADP-(146)-Vehicle menu operation-menu_display_MFL_jocker) from not activated to activated Tuesday,08,July,2014,23:16:58:14849
    Address 5F:8V0 035 864 B recoded (Long Coding) from 01730301FF00000021110001000A00002F0004440100010006 to 01730301FF00000021110001000A00002F0004440100010004 (62665/001/1048576) Tuesday,08,July,2014,23:27:58:14849
    Address 5F:8V0 035 864 B recoded (Long Coding) from 01730301FF00000021110001000A00002F0004440100010004 to 01730301FF00000021110001000A00002F0004440100010006 (62665/001/104857) Tuesday,08,July,2014,23:30:38:14849
    Address 5F:8V0 035 864 B recoded (Long Coding) from 01730301FF00000021110001000A00002F0004440100010006 to 01730301FF00000021110001000A00002F0004440100010004 (62665/001/104857) Tuesday,08,July,2014,23:34:47:14849

    Please, help me activating SDS
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    EDIT: yesterday I left my car with SDS coded, but no MMI menu. This morning, when switching on the car, the MMI SDS menu was there !!! and it was ok (i speak and car listen my commadn) until stopped car for mor than 10 minutes!!!
    PLease, help
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