Nilz, That's cause there's nothing there. They guy I need to ask is off till thursday, I'll sort something out. An assessment day sort of thing. I'm not 100% sure really. From what I can tell it consists of meeting the Boss/MD fellow engineers (5 people in total), travel to a couple of client sites and see how I get on. Westy, don't worry about what you look like, you'll be in a suit....................wait, is it one of them hedonism weddings?