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ASN Dyno Day @ Badger5 - Sunday 11th November 2012

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by badger5, Oct 7, 2012.

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    [Nov 13, 2012]
    in dyno terms, nothing funny about it..
    its unbelievable i grant you... that there's a k03 wheel in there (teasing - lol).... but if it is, its stunning.. Me and niki were chatting about it, and he's 100% confident its k03s inside... despite me thinking it maybe is'nt (cant be can it :p ) All will be revealed when its dismantled and turned into a hybrid by dan at some point, so all will be revealed..
    freakish... and not just powered by the turbo... its got a lot of meth going in there as well, and some very good optimisation my niki
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    [Nov 13, 2012]
    It bombed to be honest doug. It made 250bhp but there was something wrong as it was boosting to 22psi and holding it to the rev limiter and still making around 275grams in the maf. I swapped out the Vvt last night,coded it out and it feels 100 times better already plus the egts are about 100 degrees lower so I'm wondering if my Vvt was not working correctly . I'm hopefully going to head back to bills in a few weeks to see it fairs again. I ran it on actuator pressure yesterday at 10psi and it made 222grams and felt quicker than it was running badly at 286!


    Bill I've sent you an email.
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    [Nov 13, 2012]
    robbies made no more power from 1900cc than itr did when 1800cc, it made significantly more torque however mid range before tubby ran out of puff as it did before. dont ignore wmi contribution to the power ;)
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    [Nov 13, 2012]
    Meth is King. How many recent builds have we seen where the impossible is being made possible by the help of Mr Meth :thumbsup:
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    [Nov 13, 2012]
    I vote you do the K03 strip down Bill, after all it made it on yours rollers so you should get the honors :p

    Meth is next thing on my shopping list, whilst I was MIA on here I set up a group buy for Devils Own meth kits as you know. I might ask PT if I can promote it a little bit on here to get a few more people involved.

    Was the bottom line from you that the basic kit was best to go for, and that their progressive controllers had been known to be on the blink? Bruce has told me they've made a new controller which is epic, and if I can get 10 orders he will ensure a new batch is sent across so we can get the new controller.
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    [Nov 13, 2012]
    whats Epic about the new controller? Reliability being top of the list for me.. I am looking for a supplier of wmi systems I can "rely on". Devils own I used but their controller mortality sucked so I had to drop them. AEM now seem to be just as unreliable...

    If their new controller is reliable I would be interested so long as its not silly priced.
    For simplicity, and lupo is running my old Aquamist pressure switch on/off simple setup currently whilst its aem controller has been sent away under warranty, and it seems to work fine.
    Simple pressure switch + relay.. lot to be said for it.
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    [Nov 13, 2012]
    got your email dan..
    uploaded your missing plots now, sorry about that. sort by date and yours @ the top.

    Directory Listing of /bin/Dyno/asn-111112/
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    [Nov 13, 2012]
    Here's the logs of the runs from Sunday on Mylo's where you can see, there's duty cycle left in it
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    If you don't mind I'll ask Bruce to give you a call, he'll obviously be able to do a lot better job of explaining it to me.

    Last contact I had from his was as follows -

    I've done my own research on the controllers and seen a few snippets posted by Bruce on forums he uses and basically he is saying it is greatly improved. "Epic" was maybe a bit too strong...lol
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    194.75g/s from a ko3s, haha. Using the 0.8 rule that'd suggest ~ 243bhp, so I guess the other 18bhp is coming from the timing allowed by shed loads of meth!

    I've seen other peoples problems with the AEM controllers, and I'm thankful that I've not suffered any of these issues yet, but if and when the time does come, I'll definitely be fitting a simple pressure switch rather than putting my trust in another controller.
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    Yep..... meth certainly is'nt hurting the cause
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    Gower has a plan... I need to earn my "gold tuner" award I cannot afford to buy one like most...lol

    Myles car is ready to have the beach buggy hybrid fitted to his car with the aim of 280bhp.... So why not me and Myles book in at Bills to have a morning of dyno testing with the k03s with WMI and without WMI so we can get final numbers for both combinations. I have bet Bill a few beers the I can make it do a run at 270bhp with WMI (fooking wild claim) but I see head room in the logs to run leaner and a tad more timing. We can live map the car on the dyno at Bills to "eek" it closer to 270bhp. anything below 270bhp and the beers are on me that night. Once we have finished having fun on the dyno we can use Bills ramp and tools to swap out the k03s with the hybrid, at this point the turbo will be inspected by Bill to confirm its a k03s then send to Dan to see how the turbo has coped with the power its been running.
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    ps Bill, I will bring that £50 with me to say thanks you putting the air temp probe on Pauls cuppa tea.........
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    Game on, I down with that. :friends:
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    If i'm free I'll happily make the road trip up to see this.. Aiming a bit low @ 280 on the hybrid arent you nick? im hoping to see at least 300 from it!!!
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    spec of said hybrid?
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    Rs6 turbine, non clipped. 2280 compressor. K04 compressor housing with k03 outlet . Ported and polished turbine housing. Large pad thrust collar and washer with upgraded thrust bearing. I believe they plan on running a stock actuator to begin. On paper the internals can flow 320bhp. The compressor has a 3% smaller inducer to what Bill is currently running.
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    My worry is exhaust manifold and the amount of heat and pressure building up on number3, my home brew hybrids with k04-001 turbine side with k04-023 made 300bhp on stock manifold but cylinder 3 had the be kept in check with WMI. But saying the the 023 with rs6 wheel turbine should flow a lot better and reduce heat pass back.

    Back to my usual answer and the answer I gave Myles when I first met him "Only one way to find out" to his question asking me how much power can we get from his k03s.

    I am looking forward to aiming for 300bhp if your happy for me to try. I might covert Myles mapping to an EGT map setup so we can log whats going on and gain some real data for R&D.

    Nick
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    once upon a time a hybrid was such and such a spec. now when people throw around the term you have NO idea what it could be lol.
    all your fault, keep it up
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    Tell me about I am seeing so called "hybrids" making less power than stock turbos. The turbo technics k03 hybird is a disaster setup using the VXR comp wheel and a clipped turbine of some sort. Out the box it made 212bhp with 100% duty cycle, we had to add a forge actuator with blue spring to just get close to 250bhp by ringing the nuts of it. It just didnt work..... no fast spooling, no decent midrange grunt and very very poor peak flow with boost tailing off far to fast..

    The only ko3 hybrid to give me a boner and made me smile in the last 2 years was the one Dan built in his shed for Coates's AGU A3 which made 280bhp far to easy and flowed like a the hoover dam.
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    lol that good eh.
    maybe we should keep a diary or list of all the different hybrids about and their owners and leave it in the stickies. it really is THAT hard to follow what is what.

    at least the top dog hasnt really been changed or beaten....YET. ko4, 2283, rs6, ported. Just a shame about dans hiccups with the garrett-ko4 at bills
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    Same spec as mine then, but in A3 fitment? Be good to see what it can do :)
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    and where is your thread?!?
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    yes, the same.

    I possibly should give my TT to nick to see what he can ring out of it..
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    Turbos still sitting in its box :p

    Cant really afford to take the Avant off the road until my exhausts sorted on the saloon (a week tomorrow) as while it should be straight forward i cant risk ending up with no car.

    I also need to get it converted to ME7 before i can get it tuned!
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    get it done...lol
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    when ur ready dude
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    does that mean I get a TT to rag the **** out of in the name of R&D ? It works on the Leon :thumbsup:
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    Is that Welly you're speaking of?
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    It's mine now :laugh:

    I think Karl means in general terms, the top hybrid commonly available to us is the 2283/rs6 ko4 framed hybrid.
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    Share and share alike :hi:

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