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    Numerous applications seem to be getting me nowhere, is there anyone on ASN thats in the engineering field and looking for a recent graduate? (BEng Mechanical Engineering)

    Hopefully i get a reply, but if not then it was worth the try!
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    economy;s ****e, i joined navy, so just bumming around for a year until i get the job, and hold the jokes about bumming around wehilst in the navy, iv heard them all.............. iv applied for subs, if you apply for subs as an engineering officer, using your degree, ur pay is quite literally epic
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    my cousin suggested this to me but i've never really been too into the idea of being part of the navy or army or whatever. I wana get into motorsport engineering ultimately, just need a stepping stone to begin with
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    good luck with this, and i mean it because you will need all the luck you can get!!! many have tried and many have failed. fire your cv to prodrive uk and prodrive australia, see what happens?

    chris
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    Done it. Applied for many jobs too. "application unsuccessful CV kept on file"
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    Good luck :icon_thumright: hope you get sorted
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    I'm in the engineering trade and do alot for MOD !
    Try BAE systems , Babcock nuclear , also Land Rover are building a new plant in the midlands !
    I know it's not motorsport but one thing leads to another !
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    any experience tho? experience is key.
    in the motor trade (been in it 13 years now) you can have all the qualfications in the world, doesnt mean you can work on cars.
    we had a guy like that at work ages ago, was a mature student getting into the car trade, he had a motorsport engineering degree..... was the worst mechanic ever!

    just offer to work for free, gets your foot in door.
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    did the app for jag land rover. been waiting 3 months for a response, they keep emailing saying that they've had a record number of applicants this year and are still processing applications. I'd happily take a good engineering role, motorsports just what i hope for. I did a lot of 3D modelling, CFD and CAD which i'd ideally like to go further with. But i wouldn't want a role that leaves me stuck in an office, im a very hands on person and I love nothing more than toying about with cars or bits n bobs here n there. I'll look into the other ones you mentioned, thanks alot Stubie
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    I do 3d modelling on Cad using Delcam Powershape and cam programming using Featurecam ! Google Delcam and look at the job opportunities on their website ! They're always recruiting !
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    And I'm one of them! Studied Motorsport Engineering at uni and I was looking at taking the same path. All teams/companies told me the same thing... "If you don't know someone that's working here, chances are you'll find it really difficult to get work here". I didnt know anyone anywhere so I cut my losses, left uni and followed a different career path when the opportunity came up.

    Sidhu88, all I can say is keep at it and best of luck. Don't get me wrong, some people have got in the industry. A mate of mine is a designer at Nissan, another works for Aston Martin, and one guy is part of the racing team that's developed/built the Juke-R, and also runs a car at the BTCC, WTCC and Le Mans. It's just the competition is crazy high at the moment, plus you have the economy where it is with companies looking to lower their expenses.

    It'll be easier to get your foot in the door with a smaller/low key company and work your way from there. My mate from Nissan got with them through an apprenticeship when he finished his GCSE's, the one with Aston got a 1st at uni so went straight there, and the one in the racing team started off with a team that nobody had even heard of that ran a car in support races and worked his way up from there. I know one guy who works for Force India and used to be Adrian Sutil's electrical engineer, and is now Nico's. He started out by modifying American trucks!

    My advice would be think outside the box. There's more than one way to get in the industry. The obvious way is the one that is nigh on impossible to get a job because almost everyone is trying the same path.

    Best of luck though mate.
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    I completely understand where ur coming from in that sense. I have nothing solid in terms of experience, i've been working at halfords for 6 years doing mainly standard car work, bulbs batteries etc etc but recently i've taken over the role of audio technician so i spend most days stripping cars out for anything and everything and then get it all back in again.

    Aside from that i can service most cars, picked that up over time myself (gotta love haynes). I'll attempt pretty much anything on a car myself unless it really is beyond me (e.g. cambelt change on a PD engine lol). I've still got a lot to learn but i like to think i know a fair bit already if you get what i mean.

    The only thing thats really credible was a year doing Formula student at uni, designed and built a race car from scratch in a team of about 15. During that time i helped build a full carbon chassis, and then focused on making my exhaust system. Learnt to weld, wish i had the equipment to carry on with it. I've asked a few big players for experience, no replies as yet. McLaren being the main one thats nearby.

    Working for free is a way through but im barely getting by on the money i earn at halfords, living off Job seekers wouldn't work
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    Just incase anyone wants to see it. Its a car forum after all
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    Full carbon chassis
    BBS Rimmage
    Rotax V-Twin, originally 490cc, bored out to 608cc.
    54bhp through a 20mm intake restrictor
    Weighed ~235kg (Wet)
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    I shoulda just done a business course :( lol. Saying that, i did mechanical to generalise my degree as much as possible, motorsport leaves you too restricted to what you can do afterwards in comparison.
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    Nah, media! Lol

    I know what you mean though, MS Engineering was very focused. Ever since I done work experience with Ford at GCSE time, I only had one thing I wanted to do, and my focus was to end up in Motorsport. It's the one thing I learnt, keep your options open. Trouble is, I was in my final year when the recession hit so it all went pear shaped. An well... sh!t happens!
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    Before going to uni and deciding between accounting and mech engineering all i kept hearing was there is a shortage of engineers in the UK. Now it seems they have more than they can handle. Its not gonna get any better any time soon either. Think its still yet to get worse
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    They still are screaming for engineers though? That's what I don't get. Look at Bloodhound SSC, one of the reasons they got that project up and running was to get young people interested in engineering again!
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    rolls royce are recruiting. they have positions worldwide

    which brings me on to say, search worldwide.

    i have a friend that when he left uni, 2 years ago (geology), applied for jobs and stated in the application he'd work for free, then when he went for interview the boss said to him il pay you, it was an engineering job too. so maybe you just have to take that chance.

    best of luck anyway.
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    Engineering is literally a dying trade at the moment seeing as the apprentice scheme was scrapped years ago. I have been a Mech Eng for 22 yrs and just retired from the RAF......Qualified to the hilt in all aspects of engineering, management and instrucional techniques. I would get some experience as nowadays employers look for the experience over qualifications especiallyin the tech dept. No point in having all up top if you cant handle a spanner. I believe one of the large rail networks are taking on only graduates at the moment to give them a chance to get their foot in the door. Something will turn up but expect alot of competition as alot of military guys - especially RAF are retiring or bailing out with good qualifications and experience.
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    plus, no offence here, but if your putting "i work at halfords and fit radios, batteries, bulbs and wipers" on your applications. i suspect it'll go straight in the bin..........
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    quite.however, i think the idea to search worldwide is your answer...if you want it bad enough youll get there.It might take time of course.Mechanical engineering is a wanted occupation in australia, http://www.migrationexpert.com.au/visa/australian_migration_occupations_in_demand_list_.aspso have a go at that.perfect time to leave this **** hole of a country.Itll give you a new lease of life, and experiance and contacts that will help in your dream.you cant just walk into what you want these days.Nepotism is still rife, and its a case of its not what you know but who.always has been always will be.Motorsport is so specialised, without an insider i guess it would be near impossible to get into.Best of luck
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    Lol definately not.
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    Agreed but you need to give people a chance to prove themselves in the beginning as everyone starts somewhere.
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    Rolls-Royce
    Try there,not a bad place to work,worldwide operations in various types of work

    I wouldn't use that line when interviewed or you'll be at Halfords a long time
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    tried offshore mate? no office work (aside from the amount of risk assements and work permits)
    you can do all your motorsport in your time off! you get plenty salary will be infinatly better than that of motorsport considering you usally only work 1/3 of the year etc

    good craic as well
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    sorry for the late reply had a busy weekend. thanks for all the replies, given me alot more things to think about and potential routes to go down. Been sitting in limbo, applied to a fair few places and couldn't think of where else to go.

    Rolls royce is really good, but really hard to get into. I dont meet their requirements, they ask for strong grades from university as well as A-levels, my a-level grades werent the best and i was lucky to get into mech eng. They made it pretty clear at the careers event i went to that they wouldn't even consider me.

    Thanks again for all the input everyone, much appreciated
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    I'm a loser and my effort to spam your forum has resulted in a FAIL.

    I apologise and will never return.
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    All the best in search for the job you want, its going to be hard as there will be so many people applying for the same job but with years of experience no doubt. But I guess it depends what the company recruiting are looking for. Don't give up hope or that game over dude. Deffo agree with looking out of area or even better overseas for work, plus that gets you out of this sinking ship they call the UK to so win win! My Grandad was a master draftsman in engine architecture for RR, worked there since leaving school travelled the world with them and apparently they'r an amazing company to work for.
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    I wish I was an Engineer. Looking at the jobs market, working offshore seems to pay really well for what it is.

    I'm in the worst ratio for 'lowest paid/longest time to qualify/highest responsibility' career: Architecture. 2 degrees, 1 postgraduate, 1 final examination 12 years later, 6 years full time experience and I could earn similar money joining the army....as a private.
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    ....erm, it shouldn't even be too hard for the average home mechanic, surely?
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    Its an engine out job. Specialist only apparently.
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    Oh maybe this is a twincam thing, on A4 PD single cam it's a piece of piss
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    Cambelt change on a pd engine isn't an engine out job, it's right at the front of the engine. It only needs the bumper removing.

    Good luck finding a job, there are companies out there looking for graduates. While they don't have the experience, they're cheaper to employ and and can often do almost as good a job. :)
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    Engineering isn't a dying trade at all, it's just starting to pick up again. All of the oldies are starting to retire and apprenticeships are coming every other month, you just have to look. When I worked at United Utilities they were desperate for engineers, people just can't be arsed doing some graft to get the spot, they want that piece of paper they get from uni to do all the work for them.

    Top Tip: Hard work trumps everything.
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    Engineers built this country :icon_thumright: and the rest of the world!
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    I'm spending every spare minute to trying to get offshore. Just done BOSIET (inc Norwegian Sector), MIST, Banksman/slinger and Medical (inc Norwegian medical), at my own expense. Unless you know someone personally who can 'sort it out for you', you've got no chance. Even the agencies aren't getting back to me. Unless you have offshore experience, they don't want to know. How the hell do you get that experience?? :(
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    Build your own oil rig?
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    Hmmmm. I'd have to clear my garage out a bit :blink:
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    NO
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