Hi guys, A couple who I'm good friends with are looking to buy a first car and have been asking for my help for ages - I'll basically be buying it for them.. The difficulty is that they're both 25/26 and learning to drive later in life than most - therefore their budget can be a little more than your average banger. Effectively they could push it as far as about £9-10k, but equally have no definitive requirements so would be equally happy spending £2-3k. So, wondered if any of you had thoughts about what to get? I know it's a really vague brief - and that's the problem! They'd like something reliable and comfortable, but that's not going to cost a fortune to run and equally isn't going to depreciate horrendously. My thoughts so far have been fairly VAG centred: Polo Golf (Mk 4 or early Mk 5) Lupo GTI A3 (8Ls and earlier 8Ps) Ibiza Then also been looking at Minis, even some 1 series. I guess the questions are a) is there any point in spending towards the top end of the budget if they're not looking for massive performance? b) should I be putting my snobbery regarding german cars to one side for this one? c) one example the lad has seen is a Mk4 GTI (1.8T - 150 BHP i think?) - do you think that's too powerful a car for TWO learner drivers? d) is there anything obvious I'm missing?? After thinking about it for an awful long time now, I'm thinking that a Mini could be the perfect choice - small, fun to drive, not going to kill themselves in it, plenty around to get a good one and can be picked up for well below the top end of the budget. Note - Only thing that has been completely vetoed so far is the Fiat 500 Would really appreciate your thoughts - as this quest is starting to take over my life!