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Discussion in 'General Automotive Chat' started by paddy, Jan 31, 2010.
Has any one here lived with a 123D or a 125i 1series coupe. Is the 135i worth the extra £5k ?
not when you can buy an audi.
If I was looking at a 1 series then I would defo break the bank and go for a 135i daddy of the range.
6 cylinders and two Turbos, yes please.
Such a shame I hate the way the 1series looks so much, as on paper it would be on my next car shopping list for sure.
As it is, I would only ever want that engine in a 3 series unless BMW radicaly restyle the 1 series at some point.
Ive been in a 120d hatch, which had the newer 175ish bhp lump, and to be honest wasnt that impressed. Didnt like the way it looked, inside or out, didnt feel that premium inside neither. Seats were good though.
IMO go and drive the 135 and forget the rest.
Paddy, just noticed this with Paul's bump. Mrs Auld had 123 D M Sport and my last was a 335i M Sport so I don't mind sharing my views. I will drop something down when I get to a PC as it will take forever on the phone.
I wouldn't bother at all with a 135i all 1 series esp the coupe are overpriced get yourself a nice low mileage 335i instead, theres hardly any price difference. The interior on the 1 is nowhere as nice as the A3s either.
Thanks Guys Auld, i would be interested to hear your views on the 335i.as thats an option in coupe form...derv or petrol.
I will cut the 123D story short as I think you have hit the nail on the head (and I agree with Akash in as far as the 3er would be a more appropriate choice), but suffice to say that it was a good car. In coupe form you wouldn't want to be in the rear for too long, but when is that an issue as the driver?! The 123D engine's performance, as I am sure you will know, is something else given it's a 2.0l, but I couldn't help feel that an autobox would be a better match as the first 3 gears are so short. That said, once you adjust to driving in a higher gear than you would typically in a petrol, you do get used to it. Economy is genuine 40/50 mpg (dependant on use) and has genuine ~150 mph performance - as tested on the continent.
Anyhoo, I had a hard time adjusting from the 6 cyl into the 4 pot and missed the noise especially, although over the last year or so I have Stockholmed and re-adjusted (Note: This is not a comparison, just my personal feeling). The power is effortless and smooth and you cannot tell it is blown, either in terms of delivery or noise. I had the auto which was great for shlepping along, but the 'paddle' functionality was a disappointment in as far as they are not left for down and right for up; also even in manual mode the box would not hold at the limiter. Performance speaks for itself and economy was far better than you would expect. To be fair it was about the same, if not better than the 3, averaging high 20's/low 30's. My biggest critism would have to be the M Sport ride: the combination of set-up and RFTs might be fine on smooth Autobahn, but anything less and things were less composed. I know there is a lot being said about swapping to normal tyres, but I never got round to that.
The last point leads me to something else you might want to consider...Alpina, either in B3 or D3 (the newer one having the 123D engine too). All the good bits, plus decent ride and something different. Or, what had to be the best of both worlds, the 335D.
Edit: The hyperlinks are no longer blue on the actual post?!. Clickies on the B3/D3.
Thanks auld...I'm leaning towards a 335D. I was impressed with the engine on the 3ltr d A4 loan car i had the other week. I'm going to try a test drive in a 335D coupe auto and seem how it goes.
Thanks for you time