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Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by Welly, Sep 14, 2010.

  1. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    OK mate, I'll bear that in mind....

    I asked them on Saturday at ADI. No firm answer, just a load of wibble about testing....

    Yarp, that's K03-tacular.

    The IE site says they flow 550 at 43.5 PSI, which is 3 BAR, so fingers crossed.

    Cheers mate, I'm interested to see what will come of it after all this money I've thrown at it.... lol.
     
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  3. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    They were Bosch Green tops, 440s, normally used on Fords, and have a single spray cone.
     
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    badger5 www.badger5.co.uk
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    from SCN a guy also running the new 034 mani.. not without its little issues, but his first drive impression is below:
     
  5. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Tee hee hee

    (Welly grins and rubs his hands together with glee)
     
  6. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    I love Guinea Piging stuff sometimes... Hate it others....
     
  7. Speedy Steve

    Speedy Steve Active Member

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    Dame i go away for a few days and its all going on. Looking good Welly i cant wait to find out how you get on with the 034 i may just have to get one and Bill can fit it when i book my car in for its clutch hehe on and fit WMI best get saving!
     
  8. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    I'll let you know results dude when I know - I knew you'd be interested in this bit.... lol!! :thumbsup:
     
  9. Dane

    Dane Had an 8L S3, a B5 RS4 now I have a B8 S4

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    You and me both!
     
  10. Speedy Steve

    Speedy Steve Active Member

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    Hell yes the manifold is the key to the Hybrid!!!!
     
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    badger5 www.badger5.co.uk
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    and a 3" TIP (project underway now also) - Watch this space.. ;)
     
  12. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    I feel a bromance moment coming on.... :wub:
     
  13. Speedy Steve

    Speedy Steve Active Member

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    If your making welly one bill you might aswell do one for me at the same time haha
     
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    Let's see how it goes first
     
  15. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Planning to mock up 034 Manifold fitment on a head and turbo tonight, so stand by for pics later on this evening....
     
  16. JD09

    JD09 I'm not modding, I'm improving
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    Ouch buddy. That's some outlay for some extra horses! But by the sounds of how many extra horses, well worth it!
     
  17. mk1chopper

    mk1chopper Missing the S3

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    now your going down the manifold route it would be interesting to see how the prices pair up against a big turbo conversion.
     
  18. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Funny you should mention that, but Tuffty and I were talking about that yesterday.

    The hardware prices between hybrid and BT are comparable when the manifold is included in the build.

    Yes the BT will cost a mite more for the turbo itself, but only on the proviso that you have a worthy K04 for exchange. If not, they are about the same.

    The main difference is the fitting however.

    K04 hybrids simply bolt on. You go to Audi, you get the bits, and they fit. You buy your downpipe from the web, and it fits. Everything goes together nice and easy and the job can be done without any major headaches.

    BT on the other hand, requires a lot of custom pipework. Downpipes aren't just an off the shelf item, and neither are TIPs for example. Coolant and oil lines are different and need to be custom made. Simply, that is where the cost of a BT conversion rises at a rapid rate.

    IMO, hybrid with a manifold isn't really that much cheaper to buy the kit. It's getting it on the car that costs.
     
  19. Andrew@A.L.D

    Andrew@A.L.D May add NOS to 600+bhp S3.

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    Spoke to Dan@034 and he has given me a price for the 034 manifold inc P&P to the UK

    $490 = about £309 ( not sure of the exchange rate right now ) not inc any import + handling tax's you get
     
  20. s3dave

    s3dave TFSI Hybrid
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    sounds good, group buy maybe..?
     
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    Andrew@A.L.D May add NOS to 600+bhp S3.

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  23. IbanezDan51

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    I would be interested in one aswell. But I could import this rather cheap as we get parts in every 2 weeks so may work out cheaper to source myself...be interesting though.
     
  24. s3dave

    s3dave TFSI Hybrid
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    Your the man then.....lol,
     
  25. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Speaking of said manifold..... here it is in a mock fit scenario.

    We had some concerns with regard to fitment between the turbo and the manifold, and wanted to fit out of the car, as fitting in situ, you wouldn't know.

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    No issues at all with this one, although there have been reports with issues fitting others....

    At least it show how much of a pain this will be to fit....
     
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  26. Lemon S3

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    I got my 034 for £260 when I was in the states. Asked if anyone else wanted one but for some reason no one did :s
     
  27. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    I remember dude :(.

    I didn't need on back then and wasn't planning on needing one either.

    The sole reason this is being fitted is necessity. That large port head NEEDS a high flow manifold - I have never seen anything like the state of my manifold after a power run. Could of lit a fag off it!
     
  28. s3dave

    s3dave TFSI Hybrid
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    Looking good Welly...
     
  29. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Thanks mate, getting there I think...

    Hoping my injectors arrive today :)
     
  30. mk1chopper

    mk1chopper Missing the S3

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    So on the basis you have a small port head, the hybrid is still the most cost effective (parts wise) and easy method to reach 300bhp ,
     
  31. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Yep, I'd say that was fair.
     
  32. Dane

    Dane Had an 8L S3, a B5 RS4 now I have a B8 S4

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    I would imagine that a high flow mani would still give good results on a small port head
     
  33. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Whilst I agree dude, it isn't a (well, is a less) necessary expense if a small port head is being used is the point.

    Speedy Steve's hybrid setup is using a OEM mani with an SP Head and EGTs are significantly less.

    Worth doing if you have £300 handy, but not needed.
     
  34. Dane

    Dane Had an 8L S3, a B5 RS4 now I have a B8 S4

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    Agreed, It'll be interesting to see how much of a difference all of you large pipes and ports make over Steve's and if £300 increases performance and potentially increases the longevity of enginer bay parts I'm in :thumbsup:
     
  35. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Well, the performance differences seem to be torque related at this point in time. Final mapped product with the injectors, TIP and mani over last session should give a final figure.
     
  36. Dane

    Dane Had an 8L S3, a B5 RS4 now I have a B8 S4

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    Yep, no rush though I've got a couple of months to build up parts before I make final decisions lol
     
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    it aint easily reached. it works its rocks off to reach that level, and needs supporting mods to support the temp and flow
     
  38. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Yarp, poor little thing is spinning at flat out to hold 21 psi at redline.... lol.
     
  39. Andrew@A.L.D

    Andrew@A.L.D May add NOS to 600+bhp S3.

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    JBS replied

    here is what they said....

    Good Morning Andrew,

    Many thanks for your enquiry with us at JBS.

    Unfortunately the JBS K04 Cast Manifold is still not available as
    yet, we have our final test vehicle coming in on Saturday before
    sending the manifolds for their final production.

    Please continue to keep an eye on the JBS websites news pages below
    for any updates on the final release of this product.
    News - JBS

    Many thanks and look forward to hearing back from you.

    Regards
    Seb Hampson
    Parts/Sales Advisor
     
  40. Dani_B19

    Dani_B19 Audi-sports own special child.

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    Well, will you post up pics and parts of your 3" TIP when you've done it, really want to fit one but im unsure of the 3" alloy joiner as it will need 4 ports adding to it for the dv etc.
     
  41. Lemon S3

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    I take it the 3" tip will be made out of alloy, right? So there shouldnt be any collapsing issues, think I might make one tomorrow.
     
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    Dani_B19 Audi-sports own special child.

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    The ones ive seen consist of a 3" silicone elbow from the MAF into a 3" alloy joiner then into a 3" to whatever the inlet on the turbo is elbow, the 3" alloy joiner has then been modified with variuos inlets for the dv, n75 etc.
     

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