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Another hybrid conversion thread....

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by Welly, Sep 14, 2010.

  1. Welly
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    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Speaking from experience there....

    Non wideband does suck, but there are some benefits....
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    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    OK, so copying Tuffty :)whistle2:) I have also booked the first week of Feb off, well the 1st to the 4th.

    Planning to do everything in that time, WMI, catch tank, manifold and the subframe.

    That's a day each job, but there is no way the catch tank will take a day. We hope.

    That is going to be a busy week.... lol.
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    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Well, the WMI kit arrived, finally.

    Looks good as well, really pleased with it for £90. Bargain.

    The dude who used it before has it all wired up wrong, so stripped back all the looms he has made and redid it properly. Then took it outside to test :)

    That was entertaining...

    Anyway, looking forward to getting this fitted.

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    nice, anything else planned for the days of work?
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    btw I how did the manifold tests go? are you still using the OEM, how does it perform?
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    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    I keep looking at the WMI kits, but I'm yet to hear of anyone fitting one to a ko3S car. think it probably best wait until I've got a hybrid!

    Looking good welly. I think after all this work you owe yourself some decent suspension and brakes, then throw it round a track!
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    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Need to change my plugs again as well. These Bosch Super 4s just aren't up to the hiding I give them to be fair... :(
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    Dane Faster than a V12 Q7

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    Huh, Ive got super 4's in mine, how long have they been in?
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    BKR7EK!
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    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    About 4K now I think, I can't really remember. But they do get thrashed. Might just be a duff one, or it could be a pack breaking down. Slight misfire occasionally, and it doesn't feel like a coil based one (having had extensive experience with these lol). Happened before, and a change of plugs resolved the problem.

    I've got a set of BKR7Es at home, so will sling them in and see what happens. If the problem goes away, then happy days.
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    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Beat me to it!!
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    Dane Faster than a V12 Q7

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    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Wish I had video recorded testing the WMI, that was a good laugh... lol.
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    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    No probs. I've been running them for a long time, but now that the engine is quite highly strung, they seem to be causing issues.
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    Vote for them bad boys too
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    Welly, if you just change em each time the head comes off, you will be fine,LMAO
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    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Once every month or there abouts.... :(
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    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    I'm going to look to change to some slightly colder plugs once I have used these 7Es
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    I was about to ask if you video'd it.

    Do it again and video it :jump:
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    OK, I will do tomorrow night and see what's what.

    The jet needs cleaning quite badly, it's very calcified.
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    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Anyway, a bit about this WMI kit.

    It's pretty damn simple to be fair. The whole thing consists of a pump (150 PSI), relay for power management, a boost fed switch, the injector (which I will most likely replace), and inline filter and a tank.

    The switch is pretty basic, but it will do for initial testing. Simple enough, once it hits x amount of boost, it turns the pump on. This isn't a progressive controller, but I plan to fit the Devil's Own one once I have got a loom for it - so it will do for now.

    Basically, this is the simplified wiring diagram for it:

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    Very nice welly, good to see your getting some progression with this project of yours. Looking forward to seeing some good results when all running and tested
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    Welly sorry, you might of mentioned this but I cant find it in your thread - which stage CR turbo did you fit? My K04 is getting picked up today to go to CR for hybrid conversion and trying to figure out which stage to go for and what people have gone for on here?
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    Mine is a version 1 CR hybrid. However, what a version 1 CR turbo actually comprises seems to vary massively to be fair....
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    hmmm i see what you mean. When i spoke to them on the phone they said people usually go for stage 2 hybrid (£595 plus the dreaded) which is what I said to go for. what the details are, im not sure. I havent heard anything apart from good reports of them so I have every faith.
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    I'm pretty sure it's a stage 4:
    Modified compressor housing inlet, C.N.C re-profiled compressor cover for high flow
    compressor, 2283 Spec “Billet Aluminium” Lightweight Compressor Wheel. modified
    seal plate, 360 degree thrust bearing, K04 Large trim left hand thread turbine wheel with
    lightening of turbine wheel for faster ‘spool up’, C.N.C. modified turbine housing for
    higher flow, up-rated twin turbine seals, 0.8 Bar up-rated actuator. Other ‘blueprinting’
    modifications. APPROX 340-360 BHP Max recommended boost pressure 24-26 PSI.
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    Lemon S3 where did you ge this info from?
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    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    See look, now I understand what you mean.

    Sorry, yes it was the equivalent of the JBS 05, and the Turbo Dynamics K04 Stage 4 Hybrid.

    However CR now have a version 1 and version 2 turbo. This is due to issues experienced with some cars with surging.

    More info is here: hybrid K04 + 3inch TIP + hi-flow Discussion Thread. - SEAT Cupra.net - SEAT Forum
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    Anyway.... Changed plugs over last night to the BKR7Es and I must say, the engine feels much more responsive. It could just be the placebo effect, however I was seeing an extra 2 or so G/S over what I have been lately.

    Found the cause of the misfire, the plugs were OK, however the top bit (the metal conductor from the coil) has unscrewed itself. Checked all 4 of the plugs, and all of them were loose, so wasn't impressed with that to be fair. Also checked my old set of super 4s that wwere in the garage and they were the same. Super 4 users beware.

    I quote Bill with regard to the plugs: "one good spark is better than 4 bits of a spark".

    As usual I am inclined to agree. I will be sticking to the NGKs from now on.
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    stage 2 - very well thought thru kit for the money.
    smooth pump control, output functions to use to kill boost when level sensor (std) activates, decent sized bottle, 3 nozzles, test button, sufficient length to go rear pump, front nozzle

    best kit I have seen/used thus far (includes aquamist, snow, devils own)

    AEM superb. bravo them!

    hybrid k03 ibiza dyno'd after this install, allowed 8.25 degrees more timing. AIT's no more than 19'C from 1.6bar boost peak run after run after run... 283bhp
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    threw my bosch super 4's out, they are a piece of ****
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    The Stock plug is a 6E, so your already one grade colder as it is. I doubt it'll run well on 8's, unless you've got a BAT conversion your keeping secret.
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    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    May have to look to upgrade to one of these to be fair - my kit I have here is far more rudimentary than that... but good for trialling.
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    I love the comment currently at the top from 'germancatala'
    Brilliant!

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    coyle From Show... to GO

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    looked at these,
    but i realy like the look of this too

    R8 OIL CAP VW GOLF BORA 20VT TURBO LEON CUPRA GTI A3 Q7 on eBay (end time 03-Feb-11 18:46:08 GMT)

    still undecided on which to order,
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    What number BKR7E'S do we need for our 1.8t's? There seems to be a few variations.

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