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Another 8L Track Car - Lets get ready to 'Ruuuuuuuumble'!

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by Welly, Oct 22, 2012.

  1. frenchman
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    Car is gonna be good ;) Had a quick browse through that big turbo thread and didn't spot any alarm bells. Turbo appeared to be balanced etc and lasted several thousand miles. Couldn't find any figures however.

    Will be watching this very closely.
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    Have been reading this and wishing i had kept my a3,today i saw it up for sale oh no i feel divorce coming my way lol.
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    You should be having some good fun with this car. I'll be interested in how the turbo in perticular holds up to the punishment. If you're after a catch tank I have a forge one going cheap.
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    Just read through from start to finish looking good so far should be interesting to see how the chinese parts last, and there really wasn't any need for 3 pages of 312mm brake argueing was there pppfffttt.

    I was going to say I have a k03s turbo which is coming off with all k03s parts to suit if you wanted to hybrid it or something.
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    Dane, I'd be interested in the B5 discs etc if they "spare" etc:sign_plug:
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    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Shameless indeed.... lol
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    [Oct 29, 2012]
    Ho ho ho, Merry Monday.

    Lots happened over the weekend - including me slicing a large gash in my thumb. Bloody 1.8T engines.

    Anyway...

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    Hello K03-011. Awwwww.

    Got to work on Saturday morning with the engine.

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    Rocker cover off immediately led to the discovery of the rattling noise the engine had... Not oil pressure, but a shagged cam chain tensioner. And to be fair, it is completely demolished...

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    You may notice that in the above picture - there is the chain tensioner. It also happens to be missing the plastic chain guide that lives on the top - shown in the image below (not my image):

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    So, that was the rattling noise accounted for. What we also found scattered all about the place were the remnants of the plastic guide. Quite a few bits dotted around the head, largely melted. Also few bits stuck in the oil galleries when the head came off.

    However most of the plastic appears to have ended up in the usual place.... Good old predictable 20Vs.

    [​IMG]

    New pickup pipe for me then. Oil pump is fine however, and also looks very new, which is a bonus. One less thing to buy.

    Back to the engine then... Once the sump was off I could immediately see it is a 20mm block. Bonus. Easy to tell as the rods have securing 14mm nuts as opposed to the bolts that the 19mm rods have.

    Block is in REALLY good condition - bit minging, but that's to be expected. Bores have no lip on them at all. Adding to that, they have clearly been recently honed (when the new engine was fitted it would seem). Piston rings also look very new as well which pleases me. Again, one less thing to buy and also explains the honing.

    Crank in good condition, acceptable wear on the big end bearings so the crank will just be reused. The deck will need a good clean, as will all the oil galleries due to plastic - other than that, spot on. A bit of work and this will be a perfect block for rebuild.

    Few pics below:

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    The picture above does show the slight but not unexpected disappointment with the head - its small port. It's on ebay already being sold as is, get rid of it and source an AGU/AEB one.

    Pistons are dirty, but as said before, rings look good and the ring lands are pretty clean. No obvious impact marks, but that said it's difficult to tell until they've been cleaned up - time will tell and I have been kindly offered a set of perfect 20mm pistons if they are a problem.

    So - the engine is now apart completely. The block is empty, the turbo is off.

    Just put an offer in on some rods from China, and also have all the other rebuild parts in my ebay basket - so just waiting on a counter offer.

    Other things now done - the manifold flanges are now filed and flat, and should fit nicely to a 1.8T head. Needed some work to get the flanges serviceable, but not the end of the world.

    So - now waiting for parts, and need to prep everything else ready for engine rebuild.... Yay :)
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    Just remember AEB (or any longitudal head) has a different cam pulley to transverse...

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    ......AGU it is then :thumbsup:
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    that tensioner looks like it's had a chunk out of it lo, mice in the engine haha

    you don't hang around ! has the mrs found out yet ?
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    Mrs isn't the problem, she knows all about it. Just my mother that's the problem. If she finds out the plan she will throw some form of fit... lol.
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    [Oct 29, 2012]
    Just got some rods from China...

    Non rifle drilled (Don't start, I know!!), H Beam with ARP 2000 rods.

    £245 shipped to the UK.

    Ummmm, BARGAIN!
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    I have a brand new AEB cylinder head for sale, however its completely bare.

    I bought it cheap and used some parts off it, main reason being it has a scratch on one of the cam caps. I suspect the scratch will buff/polish out but i've never looked at it or attempted to rectify as it served its purpose.

    It does ofcourse have brand new valve guides etc which should save you some money. You'd just need to swap the valves, lifters and cams over from your existing head and build it all up.

    I was hoping for about £50 for it, drop me a PM if your interested and i'll sort out some pics.
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    Thanks mate, but think I have sorted an AGU head for £110 delivered and it's complete so no aggro.

    Thanks for the offer though. :)
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    [Oct 29, 2012]
    they from max speed king by any chance?
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    Would you be interested in these?

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    you got a link to these cheapo rods so we can take a look
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    Just eBay search 1.8t rods. You'll soon see them.
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    Shame they dont offer a rifle drilled option as i reckon more people would buy them.
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    Did you try CTS turbos in the states for IE rods? They do good deals. Or VW Vortex? There's so many cheap bits floating about...

    Let's see your gash then?
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    I know welly is fairly game but that a little forward don't you think? LOL ;P

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    Well, I'm not backwards about coming forwards.

    I didn't take any photos because it was bleeding too much and I didn't want to get claret all over my white Galaxy S3 lol.
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    I'm interested in anything if the price is right mate :)
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    To be fair, I don't think I could have got rods any cheaper than £245 shipped to the UK. Anywhere. lol
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    Agreed. However this will also facilitate an interesting test on the RD/Non RD argument. lol
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    Non R.D ftw. :lmfao:
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    there is no arguement wellyboots

    you know why rd has its merits
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    brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr goes the small end


    :scared2:
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    With the replacement turbo I have lined up, I think small ends will be the least of my worries!
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    just run a drill through them .....

    Home made drilled rods FTW
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    They shouldn't be mate!
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    If budget allowed, and China could provide, you know Rifle Drilled rods would be being used....
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    I know.. and I post RD because of the zillions of followers you have....... ;)

    ie: Others walking your path... so long as walking it "eyes wide open" and aware all good.... but so many are so much less aware of side effects than you are..
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    Make me a sensable offer
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    I shall confer with the brederin... and get back to you.
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    So, a large port head is turning out to be harder to find than I thought. Normally there are quite a few on the bay - however am really struggling to get hold of one.

    May just buy an entire engine for £250 shipped and use the head and have a spare block. Expensive, but useful.
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    PMed....:icon_thumright:
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    Thanks Dave.

    AGU head sorted :)
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    Head arrived today, many thanks Dave. :).

    Shown here, just opened the box quickly to have a lookie...

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    I shall send it off for a quick skim I think before fitting, and then whop, on it goes.

    Just checked on the status of my rods. After a trek across China to Hong Kong, they appear to now be en route to the UK via plane.

    These rods are going to do more miles getting here than miles in the engine!

    Still waiting on just about everything else. :(
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    Still want the seats?

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