Enough of this senseless bickering, we're all friends here! I think the point Bowfer is making is there are a number of issues (e.g. rear suspension, steering racks, non folding mirrors, rattles, fuel filler flaps etc etc) that a lot of people have had\are having which is very annoying indeed. Similarly not a great reaction from dealers to some concerns and not always the level of service expected. However, there are people who are not experiencing these problems or haven't yet and people who have cars that are fine and have found a good dealer. Both opinions are as valid and true. The ideal would be the latter but unfortunately the former seems quite prevalent. There goes my attempt at diplomacy!