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AH Fab / Ebay / Forge S3/A3 FMIC installs (image heavy)

<tuffty/> Jul 10, 2009

  1. russwuss

    russwuss Active Member

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    fitted my cooler today.. toyosport cooler, modified to keep the fogs

    [​IMG]FMIC by russwuss, on Flickr

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    FMIC by russwuss, on Flickr
     
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  2. Paradox1

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    looks very tidy.

    what BHP is that cooler rated too?
     
  3. russwuss

    russwuss Active Member

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    Thanks :blackrs4::jump:

    If I'm honest...I'm not 100% sure. It's pretty much the same size as the AH Fabs V1 however slightly thicker... brought it from a guy who was breaking his S3 with IHI turbo - he said it performed well and had no reason to doubt him. I have noticed my fan doesn't come on anymore when I've been for a 'spirited' drive.. so must be cooling something.

    Gotta admit the fabrication is excellent, bumper went back on perfectly - just the two silcone bends at the bottom, all the rest is custom made alloy right up to the throttle body / hard boost pipe.

    Don't mind doing a few logs though if people see this size cooler as an option, running stage 2 mods with stage 1 map at the minute :jump:
     
  4. russwuss

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    Last edited: Sep 2, 2013
  5. Paradox1

    Paradox1 Active Member

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    cheers buddy,

    I doubt it would handle multiple dyno runs at 450 lol but still should be more than enough than we need tbh.
    Think I may invest as it looks like a clean fit without chopping the front end off lol
     
  6. russwuss

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    No worries :)

    Yeah the crash bar didn't need cutting at all as far as I could see... Came mounted to the crash bar so was easy fit really. Just had to move the horns. More than happy with it at the moment, it's weird because it actually sound quieter on boost - so I'm guessing I had some sort of small leak somewhere.

    Front brakes have started squealing, so it's either new brakes or remap... I know which is the safest option, not necessary the one ill go for haha.
     
  7. Paradox1

    Paradox1 Active Member

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    get some pics up of how its mounted please, looks like it done at an angle.

    All good having a remap but not fun when you cant stop. quattro or not lol
     
  8. russwuss

    russwuss Active Member

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    Lol true, it's gunna have to be brakes I think... Hoping to fall on a set of LCR brembos with new ds2500 pads, new discs and carriers for £200 - no such luck yet lol.

    This is what the guy sent me when it was fitted to his car (I only took the two above). Pretty sure if you welded the bends on like it is on the pics you could you similar piping to AHv1 obviously at 64mm ID though lol.

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    FMIC by russwuss, on Flickr

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    FMIC by russwuss, on Flickr

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  9. Paradox1

    Paradox1 Active Member

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    Cheers buddy, Nice 1
     
  10. scotty_24

    scotty_24 Well-Known Member

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    Well last night i fitted this intercoolr kit
    AUDI S3 - FRONT MOUNTED TURBO INTERCOOLER FULL KIT 20v Turbo 1.8 | eBay


    This is what it looked like out of the box
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    The intercooler looks pretty well made and the pipes supplied are from autobahn888. They have beaded ends which is good and the silicone hoses are ASH.

    We stripped it down and found this
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    We removed the crash bar and relorated the horns as per the Forge guide

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    We then cut the crash bar and mounted the intercooler using 2 bolts. We then offered the cooler and bar up to the car and it fitted like a dream!

    We then removed the headlights and removed the old intercoolers. The next step was to marry up all the pipe work.
    It then looked like this!
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    The whole kit fitted really well, the hardest part was fitting the bumper! Its still not 100%, I need to drill and tap new holes on the under side as there is no way the origional holes can be used!

    This was the finished product!
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    I took it on a quick test drive last night and its pulling really well, all I need is a cat back exhaust to meet the 3" downpipe then its ready for stage 2!

    All in all I paid £320 for the kit and I believe its an ok option for people like me who just want to go max Stage 2.

    Hope you like!
     
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  11. scotty_24

    scotty_24 Well-Known Member

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    I see the Kit ive fitted is now for sale from Awesome GTI?
     
  12. Darrellspeed

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    HI guys, readi ng through this thread, but cant seem to find the exact answer i want, my car will end up with about 500 bhp, currently have the forge front mount, but have suspicions it wont handle the flow required for my new setup, have gtx3071 now. what is the best Cooler for this please? and what size fmic inlets will i require?


    thanks in advance for your time.
     
  13. <tuffty/>

    <tuffty/> Badger 5 Edition...Its all about the flow... Staff Member Moderator Audi S3

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    The answer is pretty much in the first post mate tbh...

    The AH Fabs v1 is similar to the Forge and has the same 51mm inlet... as you can see half way down the first post after the write up I did on the v1 I posted a dyno plot showing the pressure drop across the core running mid 300's on a GT3071...

    In answer to your question... the Forge is way too small for a GTX3071 and either go for the AH Fabs v2 (63mm inlet) or a Wellycooler variant (76mm inlet although Beach Buggy can do these with 63mm inlets now)... all the info on both are in this thread..

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  14. antwan64og

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    Crazypete00 Active Member Audi S3 Audi A4

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    ive been looking at the same one antwan has posted about, wonder if it would help retain the fogs using the wellycooler setup?
     
  16. Lavis89

    Lavis89 Well-Known Member Regional Rep Team Sprint Audi S4 Audi A3

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    time to shift through 20 pages of info. determined to keep my fogs and also dont want the messy pipe running up over the top of the engine. damn k03s...
     
  17. Gordie_S3

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    <tuffty/> Badger 5 Edition...Its all about the flow... Staff Member Moderator Audi S3

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    Its a welly cooler with ends welded on...

    <tuffty/>
     
  19. Gordie_S3

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    Are they good for 400-500hp? What's the flow
    Like on them?
     
  20. s3dave

    s3dave TFSI Hybrid Supporter

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    No its not , the core is made by northern radiators in Leeds, it is the same size as the toyo cooler (welly) BUT has 63mm outlets so a lot more room for the bumper....;)
     
  21. Prawn

    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    Looks like a good product.

    it's nice of them to make it with 3'' outlets directly off the end tanks then sleeve it down to 2.5mm for the welded on bends. Allows you to chop off the 2.5'' bends and upgrade to 3'' pipework in the future :thumbsup:
     
  22. Adam_S3

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    anybody tried doing a similar style to wagner motorsports, avoiding touching the crash bar?
     
  23. Miguel_S#

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    Thermal Conductivity of copper is 401 and alluminium is 237.
    So does anyone knows IC made off coopper
     
  24. <tuffty/>

    <tuffty/> Badger 5 Edition...Its all about the flow... Staff Member Moderator Audi S3

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    No... most likely because of cost... just get a decent aluminium FMIC and water/meth if you need better charge cooling

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  25. s3dave

    s3dave TFSI Hybrid Supporter

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    :think: What for? there are tried and tested setups that work fine... dont understand why you would want to go into something like that..
     
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  26. Sam_

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    I heard the first turbo kit for the Model T rocked copper.

    On a serious note, no one does it. Aluminium is tried and tested. If copper was better, I'd bet the F1 teams would be using it...
     
  27. Alex C

    Alex C Well-Known Member VCDS Map User Audi S3

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    Aluminium is 2.70g/ccm whilst copper is 8.96g/ccm
     
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  28. superkarl

    superkarl MAN OF STEEL

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    that Miguel guy is trying to reinvent the *** wheel
     
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  29. Miguel_S#

    Miguel_S# Active Member

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    I like to understand.
    If i dont know wthat fmic to buy i have to study.
    Here in summer we have 30.......35 degree.
     
  30. Miguel_S#

    Miguel_S# Active Member

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    SUPERKARL i like a lot your Fmic, what is your IATs
     
  31. superkarl

    superkarl MAN OF STEEL

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    My FMIC is the same as what can be found in this very thread
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    The ebay/toyosport/wellycooler option

    IATs cant remember an exact figure, circa 10 degrees above ambient.

    If you have very hot summers then WMI should probably be high on your priority list to supplement a decent FMIC.
     
  32. Miguel_S#

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    what your turbo and pressure?

    Can someone give turbo pressure and iat to compare...
     
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    Good find, probably the same cooler with different end tanks, 2.5inch will support in excess of 500bhp with ease,

    Maybe just playing it safe?
    Or they offer a bigger cooler at a higher price?

    Or the design of the core.

    The descriptions vary wildly on eBay.
     
  35. daneastwood

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    Yeah that what I thought. They rate their version of the "lord mcwellington" cooler to 400bhp but they are the same size just with different pipe work
     
  36. Grale1

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    Hi guys, I'm going to be doing a k04 conversion on my a3 agu, I would like to have the pipe coming from the turbo outlet straight, so am I right in thinking I would need a 63-54mm reducer 100mm 63mm alloy pipe with a 63mm 90 degree silicone bend to connect up to a 300mm straight pipe? I read prawns wright up where he used 45 degree pipe and silicone hose. Also can I just confirm that I nee a 1/8th 6mm barbed tail and a 19mm dv take off?

    Thanks simon
     
  37. J Eyo

    J Eyo Polo GTI (6) R

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    Yo, so everything is upgraded bar the smic's and the map; Ive got all the mods bar bigger turbo (which probably won't ever happen) I want to push this k04 to melting point (stably) ideally clawing my way to 300bhp on this baby turbo; is this ebay 51mm inlet/outlet kit (AH V1??)

    AUDI S3 - FRONT MOUNTED TURBO INTERCOOLER FULL KIT 20v Turbo 1.8 | eBay

    ....going to be able to keep my little glowing ball of magma cool enough, or do I need to consider 63mm ends? Small turbo, but pushed to the absolute max, bigger flow? Its purely the simplicity of this kit being able to drop straight in thats the most appealing

    Or should I buy a 600x300x76 2.5 in/out and pipe it up myself? I saw tufty said 2 90 degree metal, 2 90 degree silicone, i'll need more right? Is this all the pipe work I would need to make this build?
     
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  38. Miguel_S#

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    600x300x76 2,5" inlet and outlet no doubt
     
  39. J Eyo

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    ok so 600x300x76 2.5" all good can find easy enough! But, bar n plate, tube n fin? Which, I've read all the benefits, negatives etc, but for 285-90hp will it really matter which? the tube n fin will let a lot more air hit the very blocked radiator, and is much lighter, thoughts? I can get one (T n F) in these exact specs for about $150
     
  40. Tony77

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    How much is this intercollers ? It really looks amazing!!!
     

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