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Aftermarket Stereo Wiring Issue

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by burnin_vernon, Feb 18, 2012.

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    [Feb 18, 2012]
    I've had a good trawl through the forums and I think I've found the answer I'm looking for, but before I try to fix it I thought I'd sound this out to see if I'm right.

    In short I've recently bought an 8L A3 1.6 ('99) which is in good nick, but had a standard Concert HU (non-BOSE) and standard amp and subwoofer fitted which had the common volume problem making it unusable, so as a fix the garage fitted an aftermarket Sony HU (CDX-GT252MP) which on the face of it is all good. However after a bit of fiddling about with the settings it is clear that the rear speakers are much louder than the front, so to rectify I have to fade the a lot to the front to balance out.

    Thinking this was wrong I pulled the HU out to look at the wiring and I saw what had been done. The fitter hadn't used an adapter, but had snipped and joined wires themselves. Now after reading a number of posts on here (largely detailed by AndyMac) I read that the wires on the Yellow/Green/Blue connector block, the yellow part of which I understand are the wires for the amplified rear speakers, had been snipped and wired directly into the rear speaker out of the HU.

    This to me looks wrong as the HU will be outputting at speaker levels on those wires instead of connecting it to the RCA out, which will have a lower level output ready to feed the amp and hence balance out the sound in the car.

    What they should have done (I'm assuming) is use an adapter, commonly this looks to me to be the PC9-404, which would have had all the right bits in the right place.

    So my thinking is to either rewire these outputs to some RCA plugs and stick it in the RCA out of the HU. Either that or connect back up the yellow block, get a PC9-404 and, plumb that all back in. In fact I've got a Pioneer HU which I'd rather have anyway, which I have a Pioneer 16 pin-ISO connector for already, so I would probably whip the Sony out and put the Pioneer in instead.

    I accept that the standard amp/sub/speakers aren't the best in the world by a long shot, but I'm not too worried about that. I just want to be able to play some music and listen to the radio clearly (and loudly when I feel like it).

    Here's the Yellow/Green/Blue block:

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    Also he didn't fit an aerial adapter for the power aerial so I can't pick up hardly any stations, so I've ordered a PC5-52 too to sort that out.

    Does anyone have a wiring schematic for the car online that I could reference? I'm no ICE expert but have wired stuff in plenty of HUs before so I'm happy to take this task on, so long as I have enough info upfront.

    Does that all sound about right to everybody? All thoughts would be welcome.
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    [Feb 19, 2012]
    Yes you're spot on. Personally I'd wire the yellow plug back up (preferably soldered with heatshrink insulation) and use the PC9-404. The wiring is as follows (detailed on top of the stock HU):
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    RR is right rear pre-out
    LR is left rear pre-out
    COM is screen and the switch is the remote on
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    [Feb 19, 2012]
    Nice one Andy, that's what I'm going to do. I've ordered a 404 to plug the whole thing back in once I've tidied up the cowboy job.

    Looking at that diagram, am I right in thinking that the yellow mini iso connector also has line level wiring for the front speakers as well? I'm assuming that the 404 adapter isn't wired up for those and will only take the line level outputs from the RCA plugs and I should wire the front speakers up from the HU instead, given that it's only the rear speakers that are amped?

    Also, can you also confirm that with the PC5-52, the blue wire has to be plumbed into a switched live?
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    [Feb 19, 2012]
    Yes it does have front pre-outs and the fronts are already wired to the HU (the brown ISO connector)
    You will find you then have to fade to rear quite a bit as the fronts now have twice the power going to them whilst the rears are still powered by the puny 2 x 20w rear amp.
    Yes that aerial amp adapter is correct and yes the blue flying lead needs to go to the switched power antenna feed from the HU
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    [Feb 19, 2012]
    Top stuff Andy. Thanks for your help.
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    [Feb 26, 2012]
    Quick update. I got a PC9-404 and bought a new mini ISO block from Nexxia with some pins and just wired up the new mini block and slid it in place of the old one which had the wires cut. I also got a PC5-52 and that solved the aerial issue as well. All plumbed in and working nicely. Got to fade a fair bit to the back obviously as the HU is 4x50W but it still sounds OK.

    Thanks for the help.
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