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Adjustable rear tie bar installation

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by jomnhta, Oct 2, 2007.

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    Hi all, I just received my adjustable tie bar from ECS and would like to put it on my S3 ASAP. But I wonder should it replace the upper tie bar or the lower one since I found two on each side under the chassis.

    Any input would be welcome. I am sure someone on the forum have them installed. Thanks.
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    The lower ones are the preferred choice methinks, but there's a few members that have changed the top ones, doesn't make much of a difference I think.
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    Jim at Star Peformance explained some reason why its best to have them on top. Can't remember it now, Sorry. He was in a good mood and have a bit of a tuning rant. Could be something to do with the driveshafts and pushing the hubs out. Or something to do with it adding a weaker link in the system and should be less affected on top.
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    Jim and I went thtough all this too, as mine were the first set he'd fitted...
    In my view, the top is where they should go.

    It means you are keeping the rear CVs un-loaded, rather than pulling the hubs further in and potentially loading the CVs, and I'm more keen of having the solid arms on the bottom as I assumed they'd take more of the loadings
    The bottom is the easier place to fit them though...so many fit them there.

    I don't think there is a definitive answer...
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    Cheers Glen. I wasn't as far off as I thought I'd be.
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    Correct on both counts Chris...
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    Alrite, thanks mate, I will get it replaced the upper bar.

    But would it be more difficult to adjust to use it as the upper bar?
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    Yeah, slightly more difficult to adjust...but you should only need to do it once, or very infrequently.
    It'll be harder to fit too...you have to take more 'stuff' off, or move more out of the way.
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    dont mean to hijack this thread, but I want to change the springs and dampers on my S3, how low can i go without the need to fit adjustable tie arms?
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    Nothing...

    Even the quattro GMbH cars are known to have adverse wear issues and they are 10mm lower than standard.

    Basically, if you lower it at all, you should fit adjustable tie bars...not only will you get improved tyre wear, but a far better drive, more predictable handling, better traction etc. Well worth doing.
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    cheers Ess_Three
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    i fitted my bars on the top only because it would widen the rear track by pushing the tops out rather that pulling the bottoms thus reducing rear track
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