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ABS Problems, Ipswich A3 Quattro

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    Hey,

    I bought an A3 quattro S-Line diesel just before Christmas and I'm having no end of trouble with it. The ABS light is on in the dash and the EBS switch isn't lit and it isn't working.

    I took it to one garage who has vag and they told me the ABS pump was faulty, they took the pump off and sent it to BAA reman for a recondition, after having the car for two weeks they rang me up, said it hadn't worked, the ABS fault was still there and that I should take it to Audi's, which I did.

    After being charged a considerable amount of money and replacing the ignition switch, which was apparently faulty too they are telling me either the ABS pump is faulty, at a part cost of £880.00, or the instrument cluster is faulty, at a cost of £650.00, its either/or apparently.

    I was hoping there might be someone on this forum that can help me, this is costing me hand over fist and I'm no further along than I was nearly 6 weeks ago and minus several hundred quid. Does anyone have any advice on what I should do please? or can recommend someone who know what they are doing and it won't cost me another mortgage.

    thanks very much.
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    Ideally you need a scan of the car with vcds before we can advise further, there's various things we could test, but you do need vcds to do this, also if its cluster then can get that sorted for less than £650 & probably abs module for less aswell, PM me landline number & when I get a chance I'll bell you.
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    I am near Suffolk border if you need any help?
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    That would be great, I'm really stuck on what to do and the guy I bought it from doesn't want to know.

    Are you free sometime and I can drive it over to see you perhaps?
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    Given location, that seems the best option tbh, once you have a full scan & maybe diagnosis, come back on here & we'll see what we can do about it if cant be resolved.
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    Weekend is ok for me , Tomorrow morning 10ishis good , i will pm you my address.
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    results.of
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    Saturday,04,February,2012,13:22:57:55788




































































































































    VCDS Version: Release 11.11.1
    Data version: 20111209






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    Chassis Type: 1K0
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 42 44 46 52 56 77


    VIN: WAUZZZ8P38A055418 Mileage: 96690km/60080miles


    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-018-BMN.clb
    Part No SW: 03G 906 018 DN HW: 03G 906 018 DN
    Component: R4 2.0l PPD1.2 1247
    Revision: --H42--- Serial number: AUX7Z0G7FND0RA
    Coding: 0000172
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 74EDD36D17A00F4


    No fault code found.
    Readiness: N/A


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    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-A.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AB HW: 1K0 907 379 AB
    Component: ESP 4MOTION MK60 0102
    Revision: 00H13001
    Coding: 0023170
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 72E1D5756DB4014


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 AG HW: 8P0 820 043 AG
    Component: KlimavollautomatH19 0420
    Revision: 177793 Serial number: 8P0820043AG
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 71E3DA7968B23AC


    No fault code found.


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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8P0-907-279-30-H.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 K HW: 8P0 907 279 K
    Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2501
    Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000007501243
    Coding: 01880F07A01410004F0000000000000000085E175C010000000000000000
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 08192
    VCID: 458B5EA90CBAC6C


    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P2 955 119 E Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
    Component: Wischer AU350 H01 0130
    Coding: 00062736
    Shop #: WSC 06314


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8P0-959-655-94.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 N HW: 8P0 959 655 N
    Component: Airbag 9.41 H01 4230
    Revision: 91H01423 Serial number: 003CR0006UVN
    Coding: 0071612
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 4D9B6689D4CA3EC


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AH HW: 1K0 953 549 AH
    Component: J0527 036 0070
    Coding: 0000012
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 78F5E75D0BC86B4


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY8.clb
    Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 K HW: 8P0 920 981 K
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H20 0640
    Revision: D0H20001 Serial number: 2247G001004674
    Coding: 0005428
    Shop #: WSC 50741 143 61874
    VCID: 40854FBD1398E34


    1 Fault Found:
    00003 - Control Module
    005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100101
    Fault Priority: 6
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Mileage: 96697 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2012.02.04
    Time: 01:05:08




    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L HW: 1K0 907 951
    Component: J533__Gateway H15 0180
    Revision: H15 Serial number: 1400K078108058
    Coding: E9821F060006020101
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 30651F7DA338734


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 22: AWD Labels: 1K0-907-554.lbl
    Part No: 1K0 907 554 L
    Component: Haldex 4Motion 0116
    Coding: 0000001
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 36692965415C5D4


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
    Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 K HW: 8P0 920 981 K
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H20 0640
    Revision: D0H20001 Serial number: AUX7Z0G7FND0RA
    Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
    VCID: 40854FBD1398E34


    1 Fault Found:
    16346 - Control Module - ROM Error
    014 - Defective


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN3.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 959 801 K HW: 8P0 959 801 K
    Component: Tuer-SG H03 0040
    Coding: 0000560
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 438F40B1028EF8C


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
    Part No: 1K2 909 144 M
    Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.079 H08 1901
    Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
    VCID: 36692965415C5D4


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 433 J
    Component: KSG H10 0080
    Coding: 1980202002186D298505489AC637
    Shop #: WSC 06314 211 56823


    VCID: 438F40B1028EF8C
















    Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
    Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301


    Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
    Component: Neigungssensor 005 0003


    Part No: 8P0 951 177
    Component: Innenraumueberw.H04 0020


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 959 802 K HW: 8P0 959 802 K
    Component: Tuer-SG H03 0040
    Coding: 0000560
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 448D43AD0780FF4


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio Labels: 8J0-035-1xx-56.clb
    Part No SW: 8P0 035 186 G HW: 8P0 035 186 G
    Component: R Concert2+ H17 0240
    Revision: 00H17000 Serial number: AUZ1Z3G9228541
    Coding: 0430201
    Shop #: WSC 00484 210 64249
    VCID: 36692965415C5D4


    No fault code found.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 862 335 K HW: 8P0 862 335 K
    Component: FSE_255x BT H26 0340
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000005227742
    Coding: 0000122
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 3E793145696C954


    No fault code found.


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    The ESP light is on all the time as well but couldn`t scan ,is it part of ABS module? Also car is chewing up front tyres at a rate of knots.
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    Strange you say you cant login to abs, as gateway reports it as ok.

    I suggest you try doing the SRI as RT advises, then see what occurs, but if you cant access the ABS controller then this isnt a good sign, then again neither are the immo & cluster issues.

    Also see if you can do an adaptation reset of the cluster, iirc was channel 1.
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    Thanks having another go at it tomorrow hopefully if Snow not too bad.
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    Snow stopped play, we needed the car for work to get around, hopefully this weekend we'll give it a go, thanks for your reply.

    I disconnected the battery today for well over an hour just to see if it had any effect, it didn't and the clock kept its time, is that normal?
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    So we tried again today, we are unable to reset the service light, tried both ways, changing the 1 to a 0 and it still comes on,

    also we tried the "Basic Setting for Hydraulic Unit Intake Valves", we got to the 'Group 025' part but it was 'unavailable', tried loads of things including restarting the car but with no luck we couldn't get into group 025.

    Could the instrument panel be causing these problems? I've found a place that will test it and repair if necessary but I don't want to waste my time and even more ££ if these faults aren't due to the cluster.

    thanks again for your help and big thanks to Mr Heinz for his help :)
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    Did you do the security access part before trying the basic settings?

    Also can I ask, can you or not login directly to ABS 03?
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    Yes security access was ok ,can login to ABS 03, can check angle gear,G85,G200,G201,and G251 but not hydraulic unit intake or disconnecting valves. just says NA. esp/asr settings say ok but cannot turn esp on . it is off all time.
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    Assume you are using the esp button to try to disable, have you checked measuring blocks to check the buttons working ok?

    I'll point RT to this.
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    when you press esp button and hold it,it says disabled. but it wont stay off.
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    Holding button disables both systems, a momentary press disables just 1, so login to abs or instruments & check what measuring blocks show when pressed momentarily & long, to show status for each system, if it shows them as working correctly, then I'd say instruments have an issue.

    But the fact it says 2 things, immo with rom error & also basic settings needs to be done could be again cluster buggered or needs adapting in some shape or form given the abs controller has been removed & reinstalled.

    Hopefully RT will see this thread & have an input :)
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    Ok I had some feedback from the RT, you will need to do the following for them to help further & quoted from an email:

    "If I understand this correctly, the concern is that the ABS light is on?

    I don't see any problem with the ABS itself, but the instrument cluster looks like it has been tampered with, probably using some "Back Door" tool.

    If he needs help resetting the Service Reminder, those can be rather complicated in 2008 and newer Audis.

    Please get us the contents of all the SRI-relevant channels so we can see what's going on.

    To do this, click [SRI Reset] from the main screen, then click [Save to log file] and exit without doing anything else.

    There should then be a file named SRI-Log.txt (or very similar) in your Logs sub-folder.l

    Please send us that file."

    So as you appear to have a genuine vcds, send the relevant data to support@ross-tech.com & hopefully Uwe will pick up on this & when they have a moment try there best to assist if they can :)
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    As the OP lives about 50 miles from me, it may have to wait until next week if he can make it to a nearby meet. Think he might be sending cluster away to be sorted.
    Thanks again.
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    Think the OP needs to consider his own comments tbh, he doesnt want to send stuff away again costing more money, unless he can determine this is the actual problem at hand, it may resolve the issue, but if not then its another cost unwarranted IMHO
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    I'll see you at the meet I guess, thanks for the help and advice guys, I appreciate it ;)
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    OK Rob think i will be there earlier than 1pm to get a space, will leave at 12
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    So, we got the file yesterday and I went to my first meet which ws fun if a little cold.

    lets see what they come up with :)
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    As long as he has emailed verifying his genuine vcds, then they will look into this for you.
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    RT have been emailed,just got to wait and see what they recommend.
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    So, we got feedback from RT that they couldn't see anything in the file,

    not sure what to do now, I've been trying to use the car as little as possible but I have to sometimes for work, I'm nearly through the edges of a new set of tyres i fitted in January :(
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    I sent the instrument cluster to clusterrepairsuk.co.uk to be checked, they couldn't find any faults but flashed the software, I just fitted it and its the same, I'm not sure if I'd need to get the faults cleared ?

    Has anyone got any ideas as to what I can do now please I'd appreciate any suggestion, thanks.
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    I need to recap on this thread as its been a while & thousands of threads since lol.
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    Setting light to it and claiming on the insurance is becoming more viable by the day :/

    (joke btw, kind of, lol) I've spent about £700, an insane amount of time and got no-where so far so any advice is really welcome :)
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