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Discussion in 'A3/S3/Sportback (8P Chassis)' started by Von Maximo, Dec 15, 2007.
Just thought you might like to see some pics of my latest retrofit, Next on job is MFSW
Nice but I think your next job should be cleaning the car mate =)
"also available in black"
Yes rather tasty, but sponge n bucket required.
Yeah I know! Just can't bring myself to spending an hour freezing my trotters off in this weather just to get it dirty again within 5 miles
Do you have any pictures of the install progress ?
(or is there a write-up anywhere?)
I would like to see someone do this on a A3 S-Line/S3. I fear it will get "chavvy" as well with the other post of a guy having it on a corsa, same as angel eyes, but oh well, these things happen.
Fingers crossed! or it could turn out like the Led tail lights on beemers that were around a few years ago!
Led lights are the way forward though, they do a nice set for the 3 door A3 but none for the sportback!!!
Indeed Mitch, indeed! Your S3 is looking gorgeous by the way :icon_thumright:
Looking good, hope you've found the time to wash it!! :thumbsup:
Von Maximo, how much did you pay for the lights? Would they fit an S3 bumper? Part of me likes them, part of me doesn't they'd look good wired up as the DRLs though :icon_thumright:
I saw an S6 today and was amazed at the LED's on the lower grill. Looked stunning!
I don't think you can top OEM
Think they look good. Well done for deciding to do it and following it through.
Think I saw some pictures recently of the A3 Cab (not sure if they were artists impression), but I think its due to have the LED's built in the light cluster.
I'm sure they would fit, but you'd have to chop the fog light grill so it fits around the LED unit and hope it doesn't foul the actual fog light.
Where does the law stand on these then?
I mean, if I drive around with my fog lights on, I'm chancing a fine.
Yet the lights fitted above are in the same place.|
No offence, but doesn't this make you as bad as people who drive around with foglights on?
The new A4 has the LED's built into the headlights.
I'm not sure but I think there are EU regulations about the height DRLs have to be above the road surface. I'll see what I can find.
Only thing I can find is this from a german website, Not sure if it applies in U.K. but considering the germans are far more stringent on these type of regulations it's a good example to go by;
Minimum distance from the ground 25 cm when the lights only be used as a DRL.
Minimum distance from the ground 35 cm when the lights as DRL and parking light used.
Maximum distance from the ground 150 cm.
- The distance between the lights must be at least 60 cm.
- The distance from the vehicle outer edge than 40 cm.
This retrofit paces them at 35cm from ground so just about everythings covered there.
No, because these are designed and used as DRL's and not fog lights
I'll stop looking now....
There seem to be a lot of DRL kits available from various German supplies for all sorts of cars which place the DRL where fog lights would normally be fitted so I can only assume they are perfectly legal. The main difference between DRLs and Fog Lights is that DRL tend to use low power LEDs or a normal 21w bulb whereas fog lights tend to use a 55w halogen bulb. This makes the fog lights much brighter and a nuisance to other road users in normal (non-foggy) conditions.
But if they're in practically the same position as fog lights, and certainly brighter than foglights, aren't you asking to be lumped into the same category?
I know you say you're using them as DRL's, but the fact is you've fitted them to a vehicle that isn't meant to have them.
So aren't you just asking to be pulled by head-scratching coppers?
I met a guy on the Audi Driving experience with an S6, he had been stopped by the coppers and asked to switch his fog lights off. "If you can find a switch I'll gladly turn them off" he said. The cops searched for the switch, didn't find one and left scratching their heads......
That's what I mean.
Even if you're right, that's going to be a pain.
More 'switched on' coppers are going to know an A3 shouldn't have them as well.
Can't see it myself but I'll let you know if it becomes a pain lol
It takes pretty severe conditions for me to bother with foglights, so I don't suppose I'm ever going to like DRL's fitted around foglight level.
I do like Battlestar Galactica though, so can you get red ones that sweep from side to side?
What is the total power of each of the LED units. I always thought the idea of DRLs was to be lights that were not as powerful as the normal head or fog lights but powerful enough to show up better than silly parking lights when the vehicle was moving.
Why? You fancy them for your scooter to match your one peice racing suit? lol
Don't know and not bothered to find out as Audi Manufactured them as DRL's so I'm certain they comply with all regs, So no need to get on your soap box with this one mate!
Fancy racing my "scooter"?
I don't have a problem with the brightness, just the positioning.
If they were built into the headlights, or even just below them.
As they are though, they just look like bling fog lights, sorry.
As Clarkson says "Like a council house at christmas"
Only asking a simple question out of interest. No soap box involved!
No thanks mate, I dont need to race as I know my 2.0 TDi will beat your moped hands down!
Listen mate, I've got a tdi.
By the time it gets to 100mph, I'll have got to 100mph, back down again and brewed myself a skinny latte.
Look, one of the guys here has fitted DRL's to his OFFICE !
Is that he can still find his office after the office party?
They're 1watt per LED x 5 led's per unit = 5 Watts per unit. So same as ordinary DRL's
Although they do have two settings for day and night driving. This is done via a seperate control box that had to be purchased seperately at £80 and halfs the brightness whilst driving at night. Just as the A6 does
That's a lot LESS than the DRLs on my A3. They are 2x21w=42watts. No sure if a fair comparison. Do LED give more light per watt than a normal bulb? The normal parking light bulbs are 5w and there almost invisable. I like the idea of different settings for night and day.
Love it! I'll have two! one for coming in and on for going out! Genius!
By the way, You might have a TDi as well but lets not forget that you have the original fog lights installed that weigh far more than my "Battle star Gallactica" lights . . .Less weight,More speed! ha ha ha ha