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Discussion in 'A4/A4 cabriolet/S4 forum(B6 chassis)' started by AudiSport, May 12, 2009.

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    [May 12, 2009]
    Hi guys,

    I'm looking to buy an early Audi A4 cab, however can someone confirm the difference between the SE and sport spec? Im aware of the difference on a Saloon model as I've had a couple of sport models - however even the SE cabriolet models I've seen pictures of have the Sport seats!

    Is there anything else I should look out for when viewing?
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    Suspension is the main difference.

    Then as you mentioned, the seats are also a different spec.

    I think I saw some stuff on differences in the Quattro system / slip-differentials and brakes, but I can't remember the details or where I picked that info up, but probably worth looking into that too.
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    Really? I dispute that.
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    Feel free to dispute... I sat on both for many miles as did my family the Sport Seats are way better than the SE which only have minimal support.

    KK:slap:
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    [May 14, 2009]
    the sport cab doesn't come with full computer unless you get the 3.0 v6.

    thats what ive been told anyway
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    I have a 2004 1.8T cab and it has a full colour DIS, so that isn't true
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    True that.
    Anyone who has had sports seats would tell you that ordinary seats are hopeless, I would never buy an audi without sports seats.
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    [May 14, 2009]
    fair enough:beerchug:
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    [May 14, 2009]
    Having had an A6 avant, A4 avant and A4 cab, all with sports packs and sports seats, I'd definitely go for these seats in preference to the standard ones. The extendable seat cushion really helps to support your upper legs and the adjustable lumbar support is very useful to alter the shape of the backrest.

    I much prefer the 3 spoke wheel as well, as you have more 'free' wheel circumference than the 4 spoke.

    Note if you get leather seats then make sure they are heated as it allows you to get the hood down for more of the year.
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    [May 20, 2009]
    Thanks for the info lads!

    So, thinking about maybe going for a 3.0L Cab in Auto as I'm 32 now and getting board of all this changing gear stuff. Also, the clutch biting point on the A4's is really high and started to really get on my t*ts in traffic etc..

    What are the real life realities of running a 3.0L car? MPG etc?

    Also, a mate of mine who had a 3.0L A4 cab said his BMW 330ci Convertible was a much better car.. He said that the A4 (being front wheel drive) always struggled for grip compared to his BMW which always felt much more secure..
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    I thought the same about the gear changing but now i've grown bored of having no use for me left foot !
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    [May 21, 2009]
    Before I bought my 52 plate A4 3.0 cab in March, I looked at the BMW 3 series as a coupe and convertible, the Saab 9-3 Aero convertible, Volvo C70 (latest model), Peugeot 407 coupe, VW Golf GTI and R32 as well as the Eos. I was looking to spend up to £12k. All the cars I drove were autos as I wanted to use the car everyday and unfortunately spend a far amount of weekday driving stuck in traffic queues. A good auto will take all the hassle out of stop start traffic and still allow you to drive much more keenly when the opportunity arises.

    I also needed full 4 seater as this is our main family car. This ruled out the BMW coupe, C70 and Eos as they didn't have enough space in the back plus the R32 boot is too small for our family use, (gutted as quite fancied one of these but the wife kept saying its only a Golf so we dropped the GTI as well). The BMW and A4 convertibles both have decent rear headroom due to their squarer roof shapes so are arguably more practical than most coupes. The 407 coupe is huge, inside and out.

    The BMW convertibles were a 2002 and 2004, both were undeniably good to drive with excellent steering, a good ride and smooth engines but the 325Ci with an auto box is just a cruiser and has no grunt at all. The manual change function is pretty well useless too. The 330Ci was much better with some real pull although again the auto blunts the performance.

    Although they looked great outside, the 3 series coupe and convertibles felt old and dated inside, plus the rear seat or boot space is still a bit tight for adults in the convertible, despite being better for headroom than the coupe. Also, both the beemer convertibles vibrated their windscreens so much that the rear view mirror was useless. The cars I looked at had done around 55k with FSH, small specialist dealers were asking £7.5k for the 02 and £13k for the 04, the beemers seem to be expensive compared with the alternatives.

    The Saab 9-3 convertibles are good value at about £10k for an 06 model but feel cheap inside and are not very nice to drive, even in Aero form. I just found the whole interior very plasticky and the drive was really uninspiring. I've had 2 'old shape' 9-3s in the past and they were ok as company cars then but having had Audi and Mercs since then my expectations have been raised.

    The Peugeot 407 coupe was also good value, with super specc'd 07 cars at £11k but again these felt more bling than class so I went back to the A4 cab. I drove a 2.5tdi and three petrol 3.0s, all with multitronics, because I've had two sport avants with multitronics before (an A6 1.8T and A4 2.5TDI) and liked both of them, (plus I'd had no problems having done over 75k in both).

    The A4 cab looks and feels much more solid and modern than the competitors. It may not be quite as good to drive as the 3 series due to rather dead steering but the A4 does not make you think you're back in the 80s. True, the front tyres will let go fairly easily at low speeds but once you're over 40 the A4 will match an equivalent 3 series no bother as traction is not such an issue.

    The 3.0 multitronic I bought had done just under 45k and had a FSH but no receipts or other history. It had just the spec I wanted though, (sport pack, bose, xenons with headlamp washers, RS6 18" wheels, heated seats, steering wheel gear buttons, cruise, folding auto dip mirrors), and was the cheapest car I saw at just over £8k. I've spent £900 since then adding a few more extras, tidying it up and ensuring all of the due service work was done, eg auto box & engine oil changes, and recharging the aircon.

    The multitronic box / clutch is undoubtably a risk but I am a long time convert and still think it's one of the best autos around. The manual buttons give instant response and change the character of the car completely, from silky cruiser to charging monster. Even if you get a manual you still have the chance of a faulty dual mass flywheel or clutch so I don't think either choice is completely risk free.

    The 3.0 has the same road tax and mpg as the 2.4 but is much faster so I can't see why anyone would want a 2.4. The 1.8T is just a bit dull and a diesel in a convertible sort of misses the point of hood down motoring.

    I did a 160m run back from north wales a week or so ago alongside a TT RS, hood down all the way which was no problem with the OEM wind deflector I bought on ebay. I reckon it was more fun for me in the open air than it was for him and the TT RS couldn't get away from me in the road space available so I think my money has been well spent.

    I get 27/28mpg as a weekly ave with 22mpg around town / gunning it and 32mpg on motorway cruising. :yes:
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    unless the TT RS was on the back of a flat-bed truck, I very much doubt it! :blahblah1::blahblah1::blahblah1:
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    LoL @ Beanoir...

    Agreed - 3.0 L is certainly no slouch, but unless the TTrs was just leaving his in 6th from 40mph and you were changing down, etc... there's very little chance you would have been able to keep up with him - did both of you know there was a race going on? ;)

    Rest of what Corb says has real merit to it and he's clearly gone through pretty much all the viable options: especially the bit about the 3.0 vs 2.4 argument! Only thing I'd want to add is that with an RS4 RARB you'll change the dynamics of the A4 car completely: keeps the back flatter, which in turn keeps traction at the front and allows you to hang on through corners a lot quicker and then after the Apex you can push the back out on the throttle 'cos you're not fighting understeer.... that said - you'll need to be in the wet or doing silly speeds to unstick it in the first place... PS does anybody know of a cheap place for new Toyo Proxes? I've had mine for 3000 miles now!! ;)
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    [Oct 13, 2009]
    I've always found blackcircles.com comes up trumps, you can buy online and arrange to have them fitted at your local tyre dealer (they are delivered straight to the tyre fitter). Worth a try for the sake of a 5 minute look online.
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