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A3 Sportback - Removing B Pillar Exterior Trim

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    [Aug 18, 2014]
    Hi all

    I have managed to scratch the exterior gloss black trim on the B pillar on my A3 1.8 Sline Sportback. Audi have quoted me £18 for the replacement part and £60 to fit it.

    First thought was the labour charge was a bit steep.

    Has anyone removed the trim themselves? How involved is it? I could have a go myself if it's just a case of peeling back the rubber and a undoing a couple of screws.

    Thanks
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    [Aug 18, 2014]
    How did you scratch it out of interest?
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    Pub car park. Wind caught the door as my girlfriend opened it. It caught the wing mirror of a 4x4 parked next to me. It's a small scratch to the gloss part of the front passenger door.
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    On the 8P it's riveted on under the seals.

    Getting hold of black rivets is the tricky part. Or you'd have to paint them black ;)

    Edit: I think we are referring to different parts. I'm referring to the fixed B pillar trim, you're talking about the part attached to the door?
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    Just wondered if was swirled or scratched as could of maybe polished it out.

    With it being gloss I do worry that it will swirl easily. My OCD is tingling in anticipation lol
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    [Aug 18, 2014]
    Yep, the part attached to the front door.
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    [Aug 18, 2014]
    Haha, you're right, it does swirl easily...as I found out last night trying to remove the scratch. Think I'll have a trip to the dealers this weekend and let them take a look.
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    OMG

    Let's hope my detailing technique will keep it swirl free.
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    I'll have a look in Elsawin and see if there are any details
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    Thanks, much appreciated.
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    Removing and installing trim panel for B-pillar (front door)

    Removing
    – Move door window to “open” position.
    – Remove window frame trim [→ General body repairs, interior; Rep. gr.70.]
    – Pull seal -1- out of window guide (rear) in vicinity of trim panel for B-pillar.
    – Remove bolts -arrows A-.
    – Slide trim panel for B-pillar -item 4- downwards -arrow B-; lug -3- will be disengaged from cut-out -2-.
    – Press trim panel for B-pillar towards outside until surrounding section of trim panel for B-pillar is disengaged.
    – Pull out trim panel for B-pillar upwards.
    Installing
    Install in reverse order of removal.
    Tightening torques


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    1 - Sealing piece
    q For trim panel for A-pillar
    2 - Bolt
    q 2.5 Nm
    3 - Cover
    4 - Clip nut
    q 3x
    5 - Bolt
    q 3x
    q 2.5 Nm
    6 - Trim panel for B-pillar at door
    q Removing and installing → Chapter
    7 - Door
    8 - Trim panel for A-pillar
    q Removing and installing → Chapter
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    [Aug 18, 2014]
    Step 2 of that is "Remove window frame trim", instructions for that are here:

    Remove window frame trim

    Removing and installing window frame trim
    Special tools and workshop equipment required

    t Removal wedge -3409-

    Removing
    – Lower door window.
    – Remove door trim → Chapter.
    – Unfasten ends of trim from adhesive pads -1 and 3- on door using removal wedge -3409-.
    – Working from bottom to top, carefully prise off trim -2- for window frame working along window guide towards rear -arrows-.
    – Pull window frame trim downwards off window frame and detach.
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    Installing
    – Insert trim -1- for window frame in window guide -2- at top rear -arrow-.
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    – Install trim -2- for window frame over entire length of window guide.
    – Peel protective film off adhesive pads on new part.
    – Press trim firmly onto door in area of adhesive pads -1 and 3-.

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    I'd pay the £60 ;)
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    [Aug 18, 2014]
    £60 quite cheap, thought Audi was £110+ per hour
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    [Aug 18, 2014]
    Thanks cemerson, really useful. That's convinced me that the £60 labour charge isn't too bad after all.
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    [Aug 18, 2014]
    And step 2 of that is 'Remove door trim' which is here...

    Remove door trim

    Removing and installing door trim (front)
    Special tools and workshop equipment required

    t Wedges -T10383-
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    Removing
    – Switch off ignition and remove ignition key.
    – Using wedge -T10383/1-, carefully prise loudspeaker trim -1- off door trim along gap -arrow- and detach.
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    – Remove bolts -1 and 2-.
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    – Starting in bottom rear corner, use wedge -T10383- to unclip door trim from door. To do so, insert wedge between door trim and door in area of retaining clips. A70-11419.png

    Position of retaining clips -arrows-
    t Vehicles with 3 doors: 8 retaining clips
    t Sportback: 7 retaining clips
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    – Pull door trim -1- approx. 15 mm away from the door all around.
    l Do not leave retaining clips in door.
    – Disengage door trim from door at top of window slot -arrows- and detach.
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    – Sportback: In addition, press door trim -1- upwards out of clip -2- in direction of -arrow- at location indicated.
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    – Carefully unclip Bowden cable -3- from interior door handle -2-.
    – Swivel Bowden cable for interior door handle inwards -arrow-.
    – Disengage end of cable -1- at interior door handle.
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    – To unplug electrical connector, press catch -1-, turn retaining bracket in direction of -arrow- and unplug connector.
    – Detach door trim.
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    Installing
    – Engage end of cable -1- in lever of interior door handle.
    – Clip in Bowden cable -3- for interior door handle at interior door handle -2-.
    l Bowden cable must engage audibly.
    – Plug in electrical connector at door control unit.
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    – Position door trim at window slot and press on downwards.
    – Carefully position clips -2- for door trim all around door -1- and press door trim onto door -arrows- until it engages audibly at anchorage points → Anchor. A70-11933.png

    – Sportback: In addition, engage door trim -1- in clip -2- by pressing door trim onto door in direction of -arrows- at location indicated so that it engages audibly.
    Perform remaining installation in reverse order of removal.
    Notes for installation: tightening torques, renewing components etc. → Chapter „Exploded view - door trim (front)“
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    Yup, if you want to do it 'by the book' as it were, quite a lot involved!

    However, it may be that you can get away with minimal effort and carefully prise things out without fully disengaging everything else. Certainly when I installed my dashcam I was able to just half-deatch things and hide cables without fully removing bits of trim. At least you can see how it all goes together from the diagrams so you can see if you can do it.

    eg, you might be able to just bend back the relevant bit of window trim, undo the bolts and get the trim piece off that way.
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    Jeeeeeezzzzz, all that for some trim. Very involved indeed, good on you cemerson for posting though.
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    Yeah I've noticed on mine these are heavily swirled and i've only ever used a delicate wash routine (lambs wool mitt, two buckets etc). Must be a very soft gloss finish on these trim panels as the rest of the car has very minimal swirling in comparison. Not sure whether to correct it or not!
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    Swirls on mine came out very easily with Scratch X 2
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    [Aug 19, 2014]
    Do you mean swirls on the gloss trim panels, or on the paint?
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    Gloss trim panels
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    [Aug 20, 2014]
    Thanks all for your help. Just had a go with the scratch x 2.0. It has just about removed the swirl marks and the scratch is also almost barely visible, at least under the current light conditions. Very happy, definitely worth the £9.99.
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    OMG knew they would be a swirl magnet!
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    Scratch X 2 is your friend.
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    Foam hopefully will be my friend, I'll just try and not touch it with my mitt!
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