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Discussion in 'A3/S3/Sportback (8P Chassis)' started by newsboy, Jun 7, 2008.
Sorry I meant I was not asked if I wanted different ones.
You must of been reading another document, like h5djr I had no problem understanding the brochure. I dont see why it's so hard to interpret? Any options that will affect other options are clearly marked in brackets at the end of the option description.
There are obviously two types of people in this world. Those who can read and understand Audi brochures and those who cannot.
Or those than can read.
And those who blame Audi because they can't
or those that think everything Audi does is amazing
and those who don't
I hope that wasn't aimed at me, because I certainly don't think everything Audi do is amazing - for example I personally think the new headlights on the facelift A3 are horrible.
Sorry, but I think the options page should be consistent with the rest of the brochure. Several items have dashes while apparently standard.
People shouldn't have to look at several sections, and try to work out what they are going to get for their £25K. Many people paying that kind of money would probably expect to be clear about what they are going to get.
I am annoyed because it took Audi about a month to produce this brochure, and after looking at it for 2 minutes, I spotted a few inconsistencies. Surely, they could have spotted those too, with a bit of QA!
Also, while the German website was updated straight away with the annoucement of the facelift version, the UK website has still not been updated after 6 weeks (but people ordering cars will get the new version). Surely, people at Audi UK haven't been told suddenly that there was a facelift happening, so they surely had time to prepare.
I called Audi UK to enquire, and they didn't have any details. They advised to talk to a dealer (who surely should know more than Audi UK), who told me they were out of the old brochure...
As someone mentioned elsewhere, probably many meetings to discuss the packages on offer, deciding what would not be suitable for the UK market (such as noise-reducing wind screens), and then Big Marketing Dave (who makes the final decision) going on holiday for a few weeks.
Nothing "premium" or professional in any of this, IMHO. Difference between german efficiency and attention to details, and the UK attitude.
P.S: the word "idiots" was for the bunch of amateurs at Audi UK, not for the nice person who uploaded the PDF!
I doubt it David - don't think it was bacardi posting either, there was a smile!
Maybe he's still confused from reading the brochure
Nice spec - any more to add?!
I agree that it took far too long for Audi UK to come up with a PDF copy of the brochure that could be published on their website.
I still think the PDF that we have know is OK at explaining what you get with each model as standard. Once you know that you can then see if there are any options that you would like to add to your particular specification and see if that option is available for the model of your choice.
I suppose it's part of the problem of having so many models and options but to me that can only be a good thing. It does allow us, within reason, to have pretty much exactly what we want in our new car.
Dont think I can add much more!
Dont want magnetic ride as not that vastly different unless you are on a track every other day and all the other stuff like electric seats, lumbar and storage pack are incompatible with the bucket seats!
you guys must loose so much money changing your cars for new ones every 2 years, don't know how you do it - especially when you've got a stunning car in the first place £20k+
oh to have money to splurge on cars
I change my car aprroximately every 3 years. I normally have to find around £11-12k to change. So that's say £4k per year to have exactly the car I want, that's reasonably new, that's covered by warranty, with full breakdown cover in the UK and Europe. Money well spent as far as I'm concerned.
Dave - have you ever thought of those lease hire agreements? I was considering these when my A3 goes back next year - as like you I wil lbe changing it every 3 years
Try deciphering a BMW one then...
I change mine every 12-24 months as I put a lot of miles on my cars. I prefer to buy new so that I can get the exact spec I want. But if a demo comes up with the right spec I wouldn't dismiss it.
I can imagine.........mate spent days trying to sort out the spec on his 3 series coupe, in the end he bought an ex demo as it was easier
I have looked at them in the past, but as I already own my car outright and have the cash to change they have always seem more expensive. Maybe I need to look again.
To me half the fun of buying a new car is working out what I want out of what's available. Especially as I'm now retired and have all day to do it!
Four grand a year is 333.00 a month.
We're only 220.00 a month to lease my colleague's sportback.
Can't see it being much more to PCH the spec you want, David.
The leasing companies pay the roadtax too, saving you xxx a year.
I'm going down the PCH route for my wife's next car, for sure.
It's definitely the most sensible thing to do for regular car-changers.
I will obviously have to look into this more closely. Any ideas of companies to contact for a quote? What will happen about the existing car that I own. Persumably I will just sell it and keep the case. Does the fact that I'm retired make any difference.
Chuffing hell i agree with Bowfer there. You need to start haggling with your dealer on your spec of car. You are loosing too much money over 3 years.
Just done an 05 A3 to an 08 A3 for approx £5500-£6000 and i thought £2000 a year was lots of dosh.
But I'm getting a better than book trade-in price and approximately 9-10% discount on my last change. Was your change for a new or used car?
Can't see the fact you're retired making any difference, but I can't be sure.
Yes, you would just sell your car, I suppose.
The usual deals are 3 + 36 (3 payments up front, 36 payments)
At the end of the deal, you have the choice to keep it (for an agreed payment) trade it in against another car or just hand it back.
I'll have a root around and see what sort of A3 deals I can find, and post them later.
Can you quickly remind me of the exact spec of your car??
I've just been looking back at the figures for my last car change and they are better than I thought. My previous car was an A3 2.0TDI-140 Sportback for which I paid £22,530 and got a trade in price of £12,755 with is about 57% of it's original value. It was 3 years old and had done 36,700 miles.
I paid £23,450 for the new car, which was again an A3 2.0TDI Sportback but this time it was a 170 rather than a 140 (£850 more expensive) and with a few more in the way of options (an extra £1,230 worth)
Taking the new car less the trade-in: £23,450 - £12,775 = cost to change: £10,675 which, if I keep the car for my normal 3 years will be £3,558 per year = £296 per month. As I own the car outright if I do decide to keep the car say for 4 years as I now do less miles being retired it will of course cost me less per year/month. It will probably depend when Audi bring out the new A3 and if I like it enough to buy one!
New. The 05 was brand new and the 08 was a spanker as well.
I got 4 dealers involved and played them indirectly against each other. At first with just phone contact telling them what i had got and what i wanted and how much cost i was thinking of to change. The only dealer who wouldn't play in my area was Chester Audi who said they couldn't possibly give me a price for my 05 over the phone. (Boll**ks)
It will surprise you how much they can drop by and still obviously make a profit. I dont mind people making an acceptable profit when i change my car but i don't like being ripped off, so i haggle over the phone mainly to save me wasted trips to dealers. Remember in the dealers showroom you are in the salesmans domain so you have to know whats on offer way before you step foot in there and stick to your guns.
Even Audi need to shift metal and unfortunately some Audi customers will just take the first price they are offered.
I am guessing really but i bet a £22000 A3 only costs Audi £15000 to build, ship and sell. If that.
Yeah, I do agree ,the only thing is trying to convince the wife that we'll get a new car every 3 years, somehow admitting it on a contract agreement may go against her beliefs
Thanks Bowfer. It's an A3 2.0TDI-170 S-tronic SE Sportback in Silver. I currently have approximately £2830 worth of options which include:
Old SE trim level - 17" alloys,cruise, lights and rain sensor pack,electronic climate control,front armrest,interior light pack,storage pack
plus the options:
Electric operation on Driver's seat
Electric lumbar support
Front fog lights
Tyre pressure warning
Acoustic rear sensors
Auto dimming and folding door mirrors
Rear floor mats
My wife, unbelievably for her, actually agrees with it.
A/ She agrees we should always have cars covered by warranties
B/ She's quite happy never actually 'owning' a car
C/ She accepts that we'll always have car payments, ad finitum.
PCH is made for us, really.
I slap myself that I didn't go for it before.
I thought the only option for PCH was to return the car at the end of the agreement? PCP finance is gives the option of returning the car, p/ex it using any equity, or purchase the car at the GFV.
Dave, http://www.lingscars.com/ are supposedly good for PCH. I don't know how you'd get on with all of the options you'd want adding though.
I'll try that level of rationalisation with her and see,