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A3 2.0 TDi Sport 38000 Miles, See Below

Discussion in 'A3/S3/Sportback (8P Chassis)' started by DaveS3Turbo, Apr 15, 2007.

  1. DaveS3Turbo
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    DaveS3Turbo Sepang Blue S3

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    What about it....am I missing something?
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    I couldn't figure that either.

    He is either selling it or buying it...so I personally think it is quite expensive whichever way.
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    He was on about ordering a S3 so can't be buying it?
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    But he ownsa 2.0TFSI so can't be selling it...lol
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    DaveS3Turbo Sepang Blue S3

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    LOL. Sorry people. My bad. :)

    I'm selling my dads car for him, he's buying mine and I'm putting the extra dosh.

    Phewwww......

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    I agree. I think at £14,250 for a four year-old car at average mileage is hugely optimistic, even nice looking as it is. Quick check on Parkers and with only 30k on the clock, a franchised dealer would be asking £12,545 and for a private sale in good condition, £11,650.

    If I was selling it, I wouldn't waste money with Autotrader. I'd start it on eBay at £11k with no reserve.
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    That's a shocking amount of depreciation tho! God... I had thought about keeping mine for about 4 years (as in 2 years time) but if it's only gonna be worth 11K I might have to get rid sooner.
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    The rate of depreciation should reduce as the car gets older....it loses most of its money in the first year, then a little less the second, third fourth,..and so on.
    Not totally rubbishing the figure from parkers but its not a reliable source. Glasses guide is generally whats used to work out values and ive found that the figure from the official Glasses Guide book can vary a great deal from what parker use.

    Some car manufacturer web sites let you put your car spec in as though you were going to px it with them and it will give you a gg valuation, not sure if it only gives you the trade price though.
    Im not sure if vauxhall might be one of them.....??

    The other easy way to decide where to price your car for sale is to just look at autotrader/e-bay and see how other simlar models have been priced, you can therefore decided to price your car at the higher end or lower end of the prices depending on whether you want a quick sale or are prepared to wait for the top price possible.

    I work as a motor finance underwriter so spend all day looking at and valuing cars for finance. Boring as hell but its got its uses........

    Anyway...thought it might help......
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    Very sensible advice. Most people think their car is worth more than it is. If you're selling a car worth as much as your A3, why not pay a few quid to get a pretty accurate valuation as to what it's worth?

    You'll sell the car quicker as a result and save money on advertising fees.
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    Yeah vauxhall site does, the do only give trade in price though. The car comes back as £11550
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    In the last place I worked we had access to CAP which was also handy, especially as the subscription we had also described the standard specification of a car so that dealers could more easily identify the models.

    It was great if you suddenly saw a car you liked and could check out what its spec was, when it was made and what it was worth!

    Some of our clients used Glasses but I thought their user interface was awful next to CAP Windows. Probably changed a lot since those days though.
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    If it comes in through Vauxhall at £11550 then I would say it should be up for £13550 looking for a £13000 sale. Vauxhall will be looking for around a 2k profit on it so £13000 private should be spot on.
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    £14250 for a four year old motor is daft.
    Audi's own website has a January 2005 (still under warranty) 35000 mile 2.0tdi sportback for only £200 more.
    Dunno how the spec compares like,haven't checked.

    http://usedcars.audi.co.uk/carview.aspx?id=501425432

    Or this younger and less mileage sportback sport on autotrader.

    http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/ww...category=CARS&channel=CARS&id=200715279714221

    I take the "65-70mpg on the motorway" with a huge pinch of salt.
    A friction free motorway on the moon maybe.

    I'll sell you mine for £3000,but I will have to report it stolen.
    I'll give you a couple of days head start though.
    I'll pretend I was away for the weekend.
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    I agree with Bowf, seems a little steep.

    I would be more than happy with that money for my new S3 after 4 years, and thats a 31 grand motor with far less availability.
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    way to pricey.

    I sold my 2005 s-line with 41k miles on it 6 months ago for £15k, after a long struggle.

    It's depressing, but you're dreaming i'm afraid.
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    Was it the red one that kept on popping up on eBay/AutoTrader?
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    If it was me selling it i would just use the other sale prices of the cars on autotrader as a guide to where i would price it.

    That said i would price it at least £1500 under what you currently have it up for...so about the £12750-£12995 area absolute max....

    Just had a quick look on autotrader and the only models more expensive than yours are from main dealers.
    As a private sale you have got to expect to take less for it than if you were a main dealer seeling it.

    There are only 4 other black A3's matching your year and rough spec....
    You have have one of the most desirable colours, bose, auto changer etc which these others have.
    They are priced £13495 (29,000miles), £13,200 (20,000miles)
    then 2 with higher mileage £11650 (57,000) £11,250 (56,000)

    Price your inbetween......£12,995...and be prepared to drop a couple of hundred in the haggling if needs be......
    The other more expensive cars available are from main dealers....yours has to be cheaper than their's otherwise people will always choose a car from a main dealer over a private seller for peace of mind.


    Hope this helps --- This way of pricing your car is prob better than using glasses guide or cap....its much more realistic to the current market.
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    Just incase anybody was still intereseted.......

    Official Glasses Guide book price is £12885 Retail - £11035 Trade.
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    I'll be interested to see how much the leasing company will want as a settlement figure for my car.
    Going by my A4 (similar original purchase price and end mileage),they will want around £13K for it.
    It'll be at around 36000 miles by replacement time.
    To be perfectly truthful,I wouldn't say my car is worth that.
    Technically,yes.
    In practice,whomever buys it will be getting a car that feels pretty tired already,although it's still in good nick (not even a scuffed alloy).
    It certainly hasn't aged as well as my A4 did.
    Rattles,mostly.
    The DSG is in serious need of attention too,as it's become really slow and jerky.
    Of course I have the benefit of knowing it feels tired compared with how it felt new,whereas a prospective buyer might think it feels fine.
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    Nice one. I always enjoyed quoting the CAP value to a dealer before they appraised my part exchange, because their faces would fall, knowing they wouldn't be able to provide a sloppy trade-in value.
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    when i went to px my car to buy my current A3 the salesman went to get the gg book to value the car. i produced the current hpi report for it and full values from glasses guide already. He didnt even bother to check the values, as soon as he knew i was in thetrade he just agreed with whatever i wanted, including getting agreeing a higher px value for me to secure the deal.

    Not a fan of the car industry depsite being in it for about 8 years....but it has got its uses -always had good deals on my cars and finance at the lowest current available rates.
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    I know what you mean. Since changing jobs three years ago, I've lost access to CAP and staff discounts on cars at some of our client's sites which is a shame.

    But the experience was an eye-opener and at least now I'm well aware of the best sales tricks and where they'll try to steer buyers to engineer the most profit. I know this because I co-wrote a profit/margin calculator! :laugh:
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    SOLD £14,000.

    Not bad eh?

    DM
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    Very good, guess the colour, options and body kit really appealed to that buyer. The combo sold it for more than book price......well done.
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    yep, more than likely
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