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A Brilliant Little Engine

Discussion in 'A3/S3/Sportback (8P Chassis)' started by TFSI, Mar 3, 2008.

  1. GlasgowRangers

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    Foo's yer doos Bowfer? Is wang Doric for cock?

    Audi boys run the show don't forget.
     
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  3. TFSI

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    Yeh BUT :whistle2: whens the tdi torque come on rev wise as a matter of interest:whistle2: :whistle2:
     
  4. Amchlolor

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    TFSI, the facts are quite simple.
    In a car of otherwise identical spec, the engine with more power and more torque will always be quicker.
    There's just no other way of seeing it, it's as black and white as that.
    I'm sure the 125bhp/240nm TFSI has an impressive power graph, but it's still 15bhp and a whack of torque behind the 140tdi.
    End of.
     
  5. TFSI

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    Funny :whistle2: Just left a work colleague 5 metres behind up to 70 mph in his 07 2.0 TDI passat :whistle2: :whistle2:
     
  6. Amchlolor

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    Sigh....
    You're not comparing like with like there.
    I bet a Passat weighs a heap more than your car.
    Which will negate the extra 15bhp and torque.
    My point still stands.
    Both engines in an A3, the 140tdi will beat the TFSI.
     
  7. mfspen

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    Although the 1.4TFSI probably has more torque than the 140 TDI below 2000rpm, so it might be more tractable in normal driving.

    If you compare the paper figures for the two cars on Audi's site, they are virtually identical.

    When I changed my 140 for the 2.0T, I found it much stronger at low to medium revs, despite having less torque. It was down to the torque being delivered over a much wider range, so you spent less time frantically swapping cogs.
     
  8. Ess_Three

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    For Christ sake...
    Stop the pointless willy waving!

    There are those who hate diesels and can't accept they may be nicer to drive or real world quicker...

    There are those who have acknowledged the benefits of diesels for years (not just fuel economy...but the torque)

    And there are those who hated diesels, but despite having petrol in thier veins and after years of saying they'd never own one..tried one, liked it and are now converted. Like me. I NEVER thought I'd buy one..noisy, smelly, slow etc...and the old tired ****...
    But sadly, they are 'better' for what I want.
     
  9. PNH80

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    As we all know there is so so so much more to a car than torque figures and basic statistics. As Ess_three says, cars put power down in very different ways and when you get behind the wheel, in the real world stats mean nothing. A car has to give you the feedback you want and deliver power when you as a driver want it to. Not to mention exhaust note, general image of a car etc.
    Some may find diesel power suits their needs better, others petrol.
    Personally i don't care which you prefer but surely we can agree to disagree that is whatever floats your boat.
    If one was OBVIOUSLY better than the other with no arguments they wouldn't make both petrol and diesel. End of really.
     
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  11. TFSI

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    Ah well me and me little engine will just get on with it :whistle2:

    Enjoyed keeping tabs on this thread for a few days :happy: :happy:


    Bowfer wouldn't be the same if he didn't have people like me and a few others to wind him up a tadge :whistle2: :whistle2: :whistle2:

    Good luck with the BMW when you get it :bye: :bye:
     
  12. GlasgowRangers

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    TFSi don't listen to the diesel brigade. Your wee TFSi was the correct choice by a mile. At least you don't sound like a taxi when you pull up at the lights. Wee bit more class.

    Have always thought of diesel owners are penny grabbing midget taxi drivers and always will. Told my old boy the same thing and he has a 335d.
     
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    The official 0-60 figure for the 1.4 is 9.6 and the 2.0TDI is 9.5, how this relates to real life driving I wont know as I never owned a diesel car and probably never will.

    I bought the 1.4 for a small city runabout car and the mileage it will be doing wont remotely offset the initial cost of going diesel as well as the price of diesel.

    I was very happy in the way the small engine performs when test driving it, very responsive along all gears, no sign of struggling and good fuel consumption. Drives just as well as the 1.8T with me and the dealer on board.
     
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    Bit late here but there IS a golf 120 Tsi - lookit up on autotrader, ebay etc - it's the same engine as the audi but they cant make enough, so have stopped taking orders on it for now
     
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    Spending 30k+ on a 335d is hardly penny grabbing :uhm:
     
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    And there are those who hated diesels, but despite having petrol in thier veins and after years of saying they'd never own one..tried one, liked it and are now converted. Like me. I NEVER thought I'd buy one..noisy, smelly, slow etc...and the old tired ****...
    But sadly, they are 'better' for what I want.



    My circumstances exactly
     
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    They still sound like a tractor at idle...
    The pumps still smell foul (at least you don't need to go so often)...
    But the way they effortlessly deliver all the torque...
    I'm a fan.
    And I never thought I'd ever say that as a firm fan of high revving NA petrol engines.
     
  18. TFSI

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    If somebody offered me a 2.0 TDI brand new tomorrow i would deffo stick with my 1.4 tfsi :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy: Its first class :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy:

    I have worked with truck diesels all my working life from hand building them to training others how to build them and the bloody stuff is horrid when you are messing with injectors and pumps.
     
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    You are not wrong...foul smelling stuff...awful if you get covered in the damn stuff.
     
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    I love the smell of diesel.
     
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    yes but how many girls have ever said to you "oh my darling Im so glad you've been messing with diesel , you smell so sexy, take me to bed and loose me for ever" hopefully none
     
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    Top Gun flashback :sos:
     
  24. TFSI

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    Just thought i would resurect this thread a tad :blahblah1::blahblah1::blahblah1:

    With just over 1k on the clock i finally got around to checking the fuel and my little engine managed an average of 41 mpg that included a flirt to and from the lakes (M6) which accounted for 200 miles and another 150 miles on A and B roads back and too work.

    On a steady motorway run it should be capable of 45 ish who knows maybe more :yes::yes::yes: It goes very well as well and everyone will not believe its only a 1398 cc under the bonnet. I would say its not far away from 2 litre petrol performance going back a few years :ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:

    1.4 TFSI the sensible choice :yes::yes::yes: THE BRILLIANT LITTLE ENGINE :yes::yes:
     
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    Delighted to hear that TFSI as expecting mine next week
     
  26. GlasgowRangers

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    I concur. It really is excellent and so are Rangers
     
  27. TFSI

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    They just beat Celtic didn't they :yes:
     
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    anyone actually bothered trying to remap one of these 1.4T? Considering the A1 is rumoured to have the same 1.4T engine but with 150bhp, I'd expect a +25hp remap would be quite easily achieved.
     
  29. GlasgowRangers

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    YES THEY DID :eiertritt:
     
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    Do you know of any tuning companies who are up to the job? Has anybody had any experience with this?
     
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    But wasn't it take me to bed or lose me forever?

    J.
     
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    Not seen anything appear in the press yet but I guess it is only a matter of time before someone does. I suppose it depends how popular the engine becomes.

    J.
     
  33. treblesykes

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    I stand corrected (but my wording is better)


    Carole: Hey Goose you big stud!
    Goose: That's me, honey.
    Carole: Take me to bed or lose me forever.
    Goose: Show me the way home, honey.
     
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    I am a petrohead but I acknowledge the qualities of a Diesel (economy, etc)

    But, the other day was doing a long motorway trip on my S3, just cruising... and thought...it is so smooth and quiet... now this is quality cruising! Could hardly hear the engine... perfect. A diesel should be less relaxing on long long journeys, probably more noiys unless we are on a A6... So until I think it is really worthwile going diesel I stick to petrol and consider my petrol bills just a part of life like being a member of an expensive gym or whatever....

    Pedro
     
  35. GlasgowRangers

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    Sorry it took me so long. Here are some pictures of my wee TFSi with the new Abt springs. I think it looks just right on the 18"s now. Not too low.

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    Looks great! How many mpg you are getting from that? My S3 has been averaging 24mph....

    Pedro
     
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    Normally about 35-40mpg. If I boot it it drops drastically as it has to burn fuel to create torque etc.
     
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    very good... who needs diesel? I can get 30mpg or close if I drive sensibly... but the car was made to enjoy... so heck with it! lolol

    Pedro
     
  39. GlasgowRangers

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    Diesel is *****
     
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    No it isn't.

    I have a 2.0tdi140. This has more power, more torque and will do considerably more mpg than your "wee TFSI". I'm sure yours is a good engine, but comments like yours above are ill-informed and inflammatory.

    Like if I were to say "Rangers are *****".
     
  41. GlasgowRangers

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    You can say what you want about Rangers mate it is a free world. Freedom of speech and all that and I think diesels are monkey chuff. My wife drives an Audi diesel and it sounds like a bloody tractor.

    However, Rangers tanked Celtic yesterday.
     
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    Oh well if you put it like that, I see what you are saying and now agree with you completely. I can only dream of having the debating skills and wit to match quotes such as the above and "Diesel is *****". You are clearly a motoring expert, and I bow to your superior knowledge.
     

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