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3inch tip tests on dane's s3 from today

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by badger5, Dec 18, 2010.

  1. coyle
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    Mines standard and unmapped, il have one and be your trial bill :)
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    Managed to fit my 3" tip and filter yesterday, initial thoughts from driving is that the initial pick up is insane, definately pushes alot harder from low down, also a friend thinks it feels alot smoother throughout the rev range and I think I concur. Havent had chance to do any logs, and can't be arsed tbh as the car feels funner so I'll take that as a result. Also the noise is awesome.

    Anyone thinking of buying one do it, you wont be dissatisfied. Also really easy to fit, only took me just under an hour
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    Ps, thanks bill
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    Just fitted mine, my n75 was a pig to refit (j valve) and seems a little stretched, took me about an hour too, and initial results seems good i took logs before so will log with it fitted when i can be bothered.
    certainly feels more free flowing, but cant wait to get some serious revs into it, cant say ive noticed a difference in noise, but like said i have not pushed it yet...
    Yes and thanks bill for the evolution...:)
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    yea mine was streched intially on the wires, but i shortened the connector a bit and tilted it all towards the rad a bit and there is some slack now.
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    how much have you had to tweek the apy maps to allow correct fueling with these tips fitted??? is it essential?
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    No its not essential, you will just gain a little more
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    £145.87 +vat & delivery
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    it needs logging with wideband on dyno... 5% on wellys, but his is hybrid turbo and was hi-flow mani as well as 3inch tip also..
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    ok thanks, might make a trip back up to AMD once i get my car back on the road then. i havent driven the s3 since 3weeks before christmas been using my 1.3 honda civic so even with out this extra 3inch tip the s3 is going to feel sooo quick lol
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    So what sorta gains will you see on a stage one APY with just a K04?
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    as posted.... the plots are what this thread is posted for Danes results are exactly what you have asked.

    before 250bhp, after 271bhp stage 1 map, just added 3inch tip and JR
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    That's damn high for a stage 1 map Bill! What map is it? Results are looking very nice.
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    i've just convinced the girlfriend to buy me one! yessss!
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    Danes was a regular stage 1 remap.. Rtech one, but thats not particularyl relevent.. it was on stage 1 power same as other decent maps give. bolt on 3inch tip gains were as posted and logged. amazed me too. its been replicated by LCR guys also. not a fluke
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    im more interested in drive characteristics than just the numbers, if its going to change it quite a bit, holding boost better and delivering more torque throughout the rev range with increased top end ooomf, its dam good value for money.
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    peoples descriptions seem to match what the plots show... eager everywhere, and keeps going longer..
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    from another happy camper over on SCN
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    Bill has brought peace and love to the K04 community.... :)

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    Whats the ID on the turbo adaptor?

    Just wondering if this will fit the A4 turbo?
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    whats the size of the a4? 44mm to 45mm if k03s type unit, which is smaller than the k04 one
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    picture of polished branch coupler vs natural one for those who asked to see
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    anyone fitted with just the tip onto a std air box?? im running a bmc cda (i no, i no, lol) but thinking of going back to std air box with pipercross element as was my previous setup, thing is i actually gained gs when i 1st went from std with pipercross to the bmc? but now thinking std air box for aperance reasons more then anything,
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    Me and bill should be doing tests tomorrow, with non mapped s3, standard airbox, and then JR filter fitted too
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    that fits really well :) what cone filter is that?? i have been thinking of something similar for some time
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    Its a JR filter mate... the write up on fitting is in my build thread...

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    yeah just been having a read up, is there not a choice of JR filters for the s3 setup?? just woundered your part no' so i dont have to read through all 20 odd pages to find your filter lol
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    No part number in there mate... got mine from Bill...

    Open Filters (JR-Jetex + Green) - SEAT Cupra.net - SEAT Forum

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    no mate.. still waiting on the JR's to arrive.. zero in stock currently dude
    delivery due to Jetex weds and then to me therafter
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    Love reading about all this - still can't believe the gains! So blinking annoyed I need a service and Tires else I'd be getting myself one of these TIP's...

    Out if interest Bill the open cone filter you recommend over the standard airbox when fitting the TIP - does this not suffer in the summer with it not being enclosed and the higher under the bonnet temperature? Or is it not really an issue.... <please don't think im trying to open a can of worms here I'm not just curious if you've done any logs with hotter temps if it can be done)
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    Speaking form experience, and having monitored inlet temps very closely since fitting the Jetex many months ago - the difference is marginal. It won't make a dot of difference.
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    Ye, I would say the same, difference not that much. Although when your stationary, the inlet temps rise very quickly but once moving they settle back down to an ok temp.

    I havent got a FMIC yet but if I can remember when the outside temp was around 20 degrees, the inlet temps would be around high 30s - 40. In the winter was seeing about 5 degree above outside temps which I though was good for SMIC's
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    hot air is worse than colder dense air for sure.. cold air feed all good to have...
    will you notice it over a decent fmic setup tho? unlikely.
    gains outweigh losses, but add a heatshield and you have best of both worlds. uber high flow airfilter and decent cold air feed and heatshield.. oh, and the high flow tip for good measure :)
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    would the air not be getting hot as it has to pass through the turbocharger anyway before being cooled by the fmic? so only really from standing traffic you'd see higher intake temps, id have thought it be more important to get it breathing properly on turbo cars more then to cool the air going in
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    True but every little helps
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    temps of turbo outlet >150'C would not be unusual as a handy reference on whats being cooled
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    so my theory is not far from correct then? as a few 'c of pre turbo inlet temps isnt going to make a massive difference to after turbo temps then at >150'c
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    Nope

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